Inauguration Day

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by archy 2.0, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Anyone who presented anything but "the narrative" when Obama won was labeled a racist.
    Anyone who presented anything but Hillary's "narrative" was a sexist.

    And I think it's wonderful that they removed all results for climate change.
    The whole climate change narrative comes from the UN and serves no one but those in power.
    It's part of a global sustainable development initiative known as Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030.
    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21
    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21

    Are you butt hurt they removed any reference to LBGTQ too?
     
  2. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    lol, the climate is changing, as I type, and it shall continue to do so, as it always has done. Barry is correct. I found an interesting study a while back, and will see if I can find it, once again. It was presented by a Russian scientist regarding a coming ice age.
     

  3. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    As for space and time, man has no true understanding of it.
     
  4. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    All of us can be wrong at any time. I am no exception.
    But the reasons given do not apply. There is no question that, within an overall cooling Earth, we are in a temporary warming trend, as it does frequently every few million years. Within those million years there are several spikes either way....and again, within those spikes there are further small deviation and more spikes...on and on and on.
    The concept you are trying to put forward is tha we should be "stewards" of the Earth, the mantra of liberal grant-seeking liberal scientists. The stewardship idea is bogus--to think that humans can be the stewards of a planet that has existed, through millions of yeas of changing temperatures/climates, is rooted in one of the Seven Sins...PRIDE. We actually think we can change the course of the climate?? hahahaha!! We arrived on this Earth 250,000 years ago; the planet has been changing climates for 4 1/2 billion years. Earth doesn't need us--it did not anticipate our arrival, it doesn't know we are here, and doesn't give ye olde rats ass if we die off (which we will soon). Many large organisms existed on Earth through climates much much warmer in prior geologic eras than those panicky computer models that the academics say are "indisputable". There were dinosaurs, plants and trees of incredible size, ichthyosaurs in the oceans, etc., in much hotter climates, all did well for the normal existence of an individual genus, species, family, order, class, phylum and kingdom. The changing climates pushed them to evolve, and finally, with the help of a very small asteroid....here we are!!
    Now none of that says we shouldn't keep our house clean. Yeah, I get it; my house is spotless due to my fantastically beautiful french wife who loves her house to be clean. Makes our life nice.
    But, "global warming"...it is an idiocy of liberal academics.
    Remember this--The Earths center core runs on nuclear power. It is a fading chemical, nuclear engine. As it fades, and it is (atoms in the nuclear sequence eventually end up being lead), the core becomes the Earths crust, which thickens until we are Mars. We are cooling, with occasional flare ups that give you wonderful islands like Hawaii, and nice waves to boot.
    I too went to school for sciences. I worked for 35 years in science.
    The "global warming' crowds are morons that cannot get scientific grants from NSF (a government institution) unless they tow the political narrative. They are the modern "flat earthers".
     
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  5. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Don't you think that the forests would be the liver that detoxifies the atmosphere of C02? More C02=More trees.
    Also part of Trumps energy platform is investment into sustainable energy projects. Just not ones where money is pumped into companies that give little in return like Obama.
    As far as ISIS, Obama did nothing to stop ISIS oil production and sales. IE bomb their oil fields, bomb their caravans of oil trucks, hold Turkey accountable for buying the oil.
    BTW most electric cars are powered by energy produced from coal and natural gas. Diesel engines still outperform electric cars as far as effeciency.
    Why do you think Obama's EPA went after a couple of top producing diesel car companies in his dying hours.
     
  6. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    Here are two old documents from my family files, once again:

    This one is from an an exhibit that my grandmother headed; I am pretty sure it was given at the Pentagon, but I no longer recall, and I do not believe that photo exists online (I own it, please do not copy it):


    This is the front page from a Symposium (from her files, again). I once checked to see if it was online, but what was fetched within results did not go back that far (I have the original, full document., please do not copy it..). Point is, we still understand basically nothing at all about space and time, comparable to the larger scheme of things...
    Back to your topic, Archy, sorry for the interruption...
     
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  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Well said Papa.
     
  8. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock The Global Warming Debate
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...-rock-the-global-warming-debate/#293bcbf3988d
    "Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data."
     
  9. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
  10. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Growing up in the 70s I was terrified of the coming ice age. In the 80s I was reading stories in surfing magazine about how because of pollution and climate issues there would be a day when there would be no surf in the oceans and we would all be screwed. In the 80s I read the skeptical Environmentalist which tied the environmentalist movement directly to the leftist agenda to halt progress and control humanity. After all I've seen in my life I can come to no other conclusion.
     
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  11. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    Yes, what was the tearful Indian Chief's name in all the ads?
     
  12. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    "Iron Eyes Cody".

    He was Sicilian...no sh1t
     
  13. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
  14. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
  15. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Donald Trump got more fat women out walking in one day than Michelle Obama did in eight years...
     
  16. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    You're right about the forests; however, last I checked we are deforesting our planet far more than planting more trees.

    I will be interested in the sustainable energy project seeing as the only two viable forms of permanent sustainable energy are basically solar or fusion. With solar being the obvious choice at this point in our evolution.

    As far as ISIS, I know he didn't bomb their oil fields. They can rebuild those, so not that great of a soultion unless we are staying in the nation building business; however, if we switch off oil completely and get a decent part of the world to switch, we devalue oil immensely. Which permanently chokes the money train that funds ISIS. Bombings are easy, instant gratification, actual long term solutions are not that easy. Aside from the thousand of innocent that may die in these bombing campaigns. How well has using force in the middle east worked for us so far? Didn't work for the first Bush, the second Bush or Obama. It won't work for Trump. Killing only fuels the money train. Devaluing oil takes it off the tracks.

    BTW most electric cars doesn't include Tesla, the apex company of electric cars. A company Obama bailed out with a loan and Tesla has already paid back that loan of 480 million dollars with 20 years interest. They paid it off in 4 years. Now everyone knows about Solyndra (low hanging fruit); however, I never hear anyone bring up Tesla. They are an American company producing and American product that could revolutionize an industry. In fact, the "right" should be holding up Elon Musk as their savior seeing as has shown how much better the private sector can do versus the public (see SpaceX vs NASA). Diesel engines do not outperform a Tesla model S or X, that is not debatable.

    None of you guys, Barry and Trump included, have not offered a plan to solve ISIS, energy and our economy. I just did. Yet, you ignore my idea and just attack Obama and climate change pushers. I am not positive if man does or doesn't have an effect on climate; however, I'm not willing to bet the future of mankind either way, some of you are. I am very interested in your solutions...keep in mind, my idea doesn't cost any American lives.

    I'm not a huge Obama supporter; however, I do support using innovation and common sense over force to solve problems.

    Ball is in your court fellas!
     
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  17. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    Offered to whom, please?

    If I wish to go to your neighbor's house and solve the, for instance, tacky Halloween decorations that they placed upon their lawn, in turn causing damage to your property, by having done so, do you think that I should tell your neighbors how I intend to achieve said goal, for your benefit?

    The two generals President Trump intends to have confirmed to his cabinet, are a very good start regarding ISIS.
     
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  18. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Yeah, that guy was actually an Italian actor believe it or not
     
  19. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    That's weird, why did my reply delay posting?
     
  20. SloFlo

    SloFlo Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2016
    Stranger things have occurred...