Knee Injuries

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by trevolution, Nov 29, 2015.

  1. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    Being the hub of medical knowledge that it is, i think its appropriate that i ask swellinfo to diagnose my current condition with their professional expertise in the matter rather then see a doctor, who we all know are for total pussies with health insurance.

    SO yesterday i was surfing, tucked into a little chest high to head high barrel and tried to doggy door it as the thing closed out. Unfortunately the outgoing tide must of given it a little wobble and the lip smacked me in the face, cartwheeling me and sending me face straight to the surface of the water, and leaving my legs straight up. As the meat of the wave collided with my upright legs, I heard a small "crack/pop" (not loud enough to be an acl i think) underwater and was greeted with blinding crippling pain in my knee.

    I screamed "oh ****" and rode the next waves whitewater in on my stomach grimacing awaiting the final moment of truth when I would crawl to shore and see if I could walk or not (the later most likely being an end to a fun stretch of surf). I could walk, kind of, and limped up the beach to watch other dudes get pitted.

    Later in the day (2 hours), the wind switched more offshore and the conditions got better so I had no choice but to go back out. After playing it conservative on a few waves, I realized that even though I could still surf, It probably wasnt a good idea. Whatever I stayed out till dark.

    I could still walk/hobble relatively good at this point. I iced the baby last night, and after an hour or two of not bending it, I can no longer bend it from a straight position to a bent postion without a great deal of pain. Its kinda swollen and it hurts to the touch on the right side where the kneecap meets the bone, and the bone itself. Feels like a bad bruise when i touch it.

    Alright fellas, whaddaIgot?
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Anal warts, definitely anal warts
     

  3. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    You got months of trouble, and maybe a ride in the MRI tube. Keep icing and see your doc Monday.
     
  4. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Sounds to be that you snapped a ligament or a tendon from its base (where it is anchored to me).
    Have fun with the Vicodin.
    BTW, when you were up here in NH, were you driving a ford transit, rust colored vehicle?? I saw 2 guys get out of one and go in at the Wall-- I watch them struggle for a bit, then ran off to do my work for the day.
     
  5. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012

    nah subi forester. I ussually roll solo.


    Idk maybe it will be a big deal but i think i should be good in a few days or weeks or whatever. I got diagnosed with 4 slipped disks and a ruptured one last spring and was back in the water in a week or so.

    same thing with stitches, got a deep facial laceration last year in santa cruz that needed 6 stitches, put a fin through my calf to the bone in costa that took 8 and a gash that rotted away half my big toe at pavones (probably needed em but no doctors around) last year and none of them kept me out of the water for even a day.

    Gotta be careful and nurse the injuries but along with caution and recovery you need to strengthen and keep moving.
    body in motion stays in motion and all that.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2015
  6. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2015
    Somebody say Vicodin?

    Ah, not my preferred choice, but hey.

    You know I was rolling down the thread screen and saw "Knee Injuries," and was going to give it a pass because I don't care aboot knees. But there was Barry....

    So I just had to stop-by.

    Trev, Barry's saying you can't surf.

    I'm going to guess that Trev can surf.

    Now, I know for facts of people on here who talk like they are Glen Winton, but can't surf at all. Like, get spooked by three foot waves. But they act competent on here. Ah, you are only kidding yourselves.

    What work did you run-off to do, Barry?

    Barry's one of my favorites on here. He has a plucky spirit.

    I got that word, "Plucky" from the movie Summer School with the Mark Harmon as a "surfer." You know, it's one of them flicks that hits the spot on a July night at 11:30 pm, after your local news, of course.
     
  7. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dude, you are now officially a cripple. Start kneeboarding. Now.



    Really, dude? Glen Winton? You couldn't think of anybody more obscure? How about Rolf Aurness?

    Take Vicodin. Now.
     
  8. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dude, you are literally En Fuego. Your medical expertisse is not to be fvcked with.
     
  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    And to think I didn't charge a dime for that diagnosis
     
  10. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    That is because you did not scope him!!
    He might sue you!!!
     
  11. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Nothing a thick coating of whale jiz won't fix.
     
  12. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    gargle or body lotion?
     
  13. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    As a topical ointment, but if you have any dental issues gargle away and they'll be memories.
     
  14. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    officially cant bend it anymore.

    whatever that french canadians coming down
     
  15. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    So all 3 legs will be stiff?
     
  16. EMazzSpicoli

    EMazzSpicoli Well-Known Member

    182
    Jul 1, 2015
    tre, get the eff off that leg right now. Elevate it above your heart (gravity works), while icing 10 mins on then 10 off, taking 800mg ibuprofen every 3 hours, and if you have an ace bandage wrap it in that to compress. If not, take a long sleeve shirt and wrap it around it to compress.

    Your primary goal here is to reduce inflammation. Yeah, you busted something in there, but the greatest damage may occur from the swelling itself. Seek to prevent that from getting worse and then you can next seek to lessen any swelling that already has occurred. The most pivotal time frame is the initial 24-48 hours following the incident and any swelling you have from then on is likely to persist for at least 7 days.

    Pain is coming from swelling in near entirety. That's why you see some athletes in some sports out there that still play with a torn ACL or other torn connective tissue. They may need a brace for support and still may not be able to move or cut certain ways, but the pain came from the initial tear and then the swelling. Once that swelling is gone, nearly all of your pain will be too. That doesn't mean you don't have an injury or don't need surgery though.

    Do you still have coverage from the FD during the off-season or do they officially lay you off? If you don't, that's a raw deal. If you do, get a referral to the best sports orthopedic you can find (reviews are online). Betty is right, that you may need an MRI. The ortho will give you initial tests in the office checking pain and range of motion and from that they'll discern the need for looking deeper with the imaging.

    If you don't have the insurance, contact every single ortho you can get ahold of and see who will give you an initial exam either as a courtesy or on a reasonable payment plan based on what you do for the nation's people. Someone will hook you up. Talk to the docs themselves rather than their medical biller or receptionist. Call and say you need the doc to call you back at their convenience, as you are a potential patient and want to discuss their background and familiarity with your condition before seeking their medical advices. This is just to get them on the horn and someone will eventually do you a solid and take you in for an exam; the sports orthos know your situation the best and usually are/were trained athletes themselves or respect the hell out of athletes and anyone whose profession significantly involves physical activity and capability.

    There is a lot in and around a knee beyond the ACL (PCL, MCL, meniscus, etc.) and damage to any of it isn't a great thing and could potentially be a very bad thing. It could limit your surfing ability and also your FF ability. Think of the terrain and positions you're in and on in both venues. You need to be durable and capable. If something is partially torn, it will likely repair itself in time if, and only if, you give it the necessary aftercare and rest. The doc will instruct you on this.

    If something is torn all the way through, it's not going to reconnect or regenerate itself like you're a lobster. You need the surgery and you would need it relatively soon. You can also email professors at universities that are licensed orthos and see if you could get examined by them as a gratuity. They often will do this to help their med students get experience and watch the exam. You need to get seen and it really doesn't matter how.
     
  17. EMazzSpicoli

    EMazzSpicoli Well-Known Member

    182
    Jul 1, 2015
    I know this from decades of athletic participation. I've partially torn shoulder ligaments and partially torn an MCL. I've known many other guys who tore things all the way through. Between my own experience and that which I've witnessed firsthand, the right attention is necessary and you need it promptly.

    Oh yeah, and stay off your damn feet and listen to the original instructions as those are key and VERY key in the first 24-48 hours post-injury. I'm happy to help any further but I'm not an ortho bro, so I'm only capable of so much.

    Sorry this happened to you but then again you're a hard cat and no stranger to adversity. You like a challenge and this is your next challenge. It's in the way of multiple things you love, so get serious about it. Could be something small in the end.

    Oh yeah, one more thing...can you describe the actual pain in your knee at the time of the injury and then at different points after? That'll give some more info to the issue. For example, when I partially tore my MCL, it felt like a very thin line of boiling water was streaming down my knee and I could tell you it felt like it traveled 3-4 inches. Then again, I wasn't getting sharted through a wave by nature and had a lot less environmental stimuli in my realm of attention.

    You'll be fine in the end bud, just treat this with priority and it will minimize how much of a setback is. Might not be much at all.
     
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    To simplify what Emass said... Warts dude
     
  19. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    Nice to see you back at SI Emazz.
     
  20. EMazzSpicoli

    EMazzSpicoli Well-Known Member

    182
    Jul 1, 2015
    lol! Yes, tre. I'm sure there are some abnormal skin growths at work here as well.

    Thanks queen mum! Can't promise how long I'll be back here for.