Kooks fighting in Malibu

JD in da house!

 

There's a big difference of being afraid of being shot and being afraid to fight a person... Obviously it's more dangerous in Newark, Camden North Philly than Hawaii. But carrying a gun doesn't mean you can fight.

 

I always thought martial arts and surfing/skating were complimentary. If you are good at surfing random choppy bowly jacked up beachbreaks, that leads to fluidity and spontaneity and quick reactions in the ring or on the street. If you have good training in martial arts, in gives you good form, style and balance on a wave.

Both give you the confidence to relax and flow naturally in heavy situations.

 

Oh right i forgot you have to be from a bad area to be able to defend yourself in a fight. I never said or implied that anyone from north Philly wasnt "tough" and that has nothing to do with the point i was making. I dont wear tapout shirts either, moron.

 

Yeah Bro, that beef between the Lee's started ages ago

http://youtu.be/R0ms24w_GKU

 

You may have a point. All I can say to that is that punching & kicking is a lot easier than surfing....

 

This was my exact point! CDs up in here putting words in my mouth I never said I was from da hood but I've spent time in those areas when I was wild youngster. Don't get to tense about your attire dude it's only the internet!

 

that's the first thing I thought...why not get out of the water, first, or else someone is gonna get dunked.

as far as the asian fight, just goes to show they're not that smart. Never fight on pavement. If one falls, hits their head and dies, the other guy goes to prison. Ask your self if having a d..k forced up your a$$ is worth it.

...and, btw, black suit asian is a kook. As others mentioned, that couch potato is way too big for him and that model should never be set-up as a tri (probably couldn't surf it worth a sh!t and why he was so angry).

 

Those dudes aint scared of prison. They're obviously Yakuza.

I haven't been in a fight in years, but when I did it was always on pavement. I've never been to a bar that was not pavement outside.

 

You're right, I was drunk when I posted that LOL Now that i'm sober here's what I would really say. BJJ is awesome, is very effective in nullifying an attack from someone with no formal training. However, if you took someone who's ONLY training is BJJ and put them against a decent wrestler who knows how to throw hands as well, good chance the wrestle / boxer will win, not a guarantee but i like the odds. Taking size out of the equation of course.

Then again, BJJ is great for smaller guys being able to stop a bigger guy if that bigger guy isn't trained. I do realize how many folks "train" BJJ in Hawaii, but I stand by my point that it's being taught EVERYWHERE around the world now. Hell, I drive by 3 different gyms on the way home from work every day, one is a Gracie camp too. It's become so dime a dozen that you have millions of dudes walking around talking about how they are BJJ practitioners, sh*t I met a guy from Miami when I was down in PR last few days. He says he gives lessons.

Many of these so called trained BJJ guys (or insert any martial art) would still get their butts whooped in a fight. It's all good in the gym, in a controlled environment, but when there is no rules and nobody there to stop it, things can get ugly. I have a martial arts background so I respect all forms of it, but I guess my point is just because someone is "trained" doesn't make them dangerous. Being tough, talented AND trained does however. I guess that's what I meant.

I personally would never be worried about the every day Hawaiin just simply because "that's all they do down there" (surf and BJJ). My point about BJ Penn is that even as great as he was, he had his will broke to the point of quitting and crying on the stool on a live PPV fight, and it was for the belt too, which adds insult to injury IMO. He has long been known for being lazy and not training as hard as he should and biting off more than he can chew. He has guts though, he never was afraid to fight bigger guys, but he lost almost all the fights where he was over-sized. He excelled against guys his own size or smaller and most of those guys he beat weren't BJJ experts like him, they spoon fed him one-trick ponies who only knew how to stand and bang.

Nick Diaz beat the breaks off him so bad his own mother didn't recognize him. Again, size / reach won out because BJ wasn't going to the ground with him so he was forced to box a boxer with longer reach, game over. I could go on for days, talking about this stuff because I love it. I just laugh when I watch videos of guys acting like they know how to fight but can't land a single flush punch to save their life, or can't even take a guy down. It's comical is all. Didn't mean to come off sounding like i'm the baddest dude out there, because there is always someone badder but I'm more educated on this stuff than the average Joe so it gets me going when I see amateurs looking dumb on video. Hope that makes a little more sense.

 

Another great contribution to the discussion, as always.

 

I don't disagree with that for the most part. Take a trained guy in ANYTHING vs. non-trained and you know who's going to win MOST of the time. Don't want to discount the guy who has no formal training but can absolutely hand out ass whippings though, because they do exist, just not very common.

 

Oh, those are different fighting kooks than these.
http://americablog.com/2014/10/police-release-audio-palin-family-drunken-brawl.html

 

It's the parrying, blocking and countering that are problematic. That and dodging bullets from MichaelJR.

 

I agree and the same can be said for lots of physical activities to a limited degree. My oldest daughter is a gymnast and now teaches gymnastics. First time I ever pushed her into a wave she popped rt up and rode it from the outside break to the inside break to the shorebreak and rt onto the sand. Steps of and says "Like that?". Yes, you little brat, just like that.

But of course that won't help her with paddling, positioning, reading the waves, etc...

Mentally I think if you do one thing that involves conquering fear that helps in other areas too. I saw an interview with Mark Healey and he was asked if he was swimming with bull sharks and whites for the thrill. Basically he said no it was about conquering fear and that if he can do that it makes it a lil less scary when staring down a huge wave.

 

Yep. Gotten my arse kicked by the ocean far more often than by any humans.

 

Yup. And being able to throw w\o putting yourself off balance, or having the proper stance/posture to absorb a strike when it lands. Or just building the muscle memory up where when you throw you get that hand or foot back quick enough to not get countered. The untrained will throw and the hand will drop all the way to the waist before coming back up, if it comes up at all. Easy pickings.

 

all of this bickering about styles made me think of this:

"Shaolin shadowboxing, and the Wu-Tang sword style
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang
could be dangerous
Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style

Bring da mother****in ruckus..."

 

dayyyyyyyuuuuuuuum. Lee dropping some Wu Tang.

They handle my 401k...

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