LATER 48th St.

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by SurfJdog, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    this should be viewed as a good thing. The fair-weather pansy surfers will quit and the dedicated people will find spots to get waves.
     
  2. rustysrfr

    rustysrfr Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2007
    If nature took its course there would absolutely be no surf breaks, or oc for that matter. That would totally put the barrier island underwater. And bar formation is greatest during the winter, sooooooooo we still have the potential for a great winter or a very long year. I guess assateague will become more of an interest to us all.

    But, I do agree with xgen70, all will be right again soon and it doesn't hurt to drive around to explore the already explored.
     

  3. n2waves

    n2waves Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2009

    totally agree
     
  4. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    Actually they took truck load after truck load of sand from ocean city and moved it up to delaware because the erosion from"NorIda" was so bad. Rusty you took the words right outta my mouth. Barrier islands are supposed to role back until they eventually meet with the mainland. If beach replenishment wasn't done I wouldn't have a house or a job, so while it does screw with the littoral current and natural sand flow I am glad they do it every so often.
     
  5. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 19, 2010
    'role back'? barrier islands are fragile and dynamic ecosystems but i don't think they're 'supposed' to do anything...:rolleyes:
     
  6. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    actually they are. Naturally they move toward the main land mass (hence the roll). Over time they should completely disappear.
     
  7. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    geog 311 coastal processes Dr. Zaprowski brother. And 24 years livin ocean front. dont make me flex my physical geography skillzzzz
     
  8. Sterling

    Sterling Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2010


    Good luck with interning. dig the website

    This link is off the website. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGYuj-Ow1rk&feature=player_embedded Watch this video and the other youtube video. If you can convince the masses to pass this type of development, beaches, in theory, will remain sheltered. And who knows, maybe the waves will be better too!
     
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  9. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 19, 2010
    i wasn't questioning your knowledge of barrier island morphology and dynamics (and never would :)) just your use of the words 'supposed to'. i understand that relatively predictable changes may occur in these environments but that doesn't mean they're 'supposed to' - just that they do. that's all i was saying. [edit: whoop whoop].
     
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  10. rustysrfr

    rustysrfr Well-Known Member

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    May 29, 2007
    retrograding barrier island i believe...dr z whoop whoop
     
  11. Sterling

    Sterling Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2010
    Good class, changing directions to Assateague.

    Barrier islands are natural processes and are continually on the move. A lot of times the sand will be taken from the beach and distributed south or north depending on location and direction of alongshore transport. Our case, south. Assateague is a great example of natural processes and barrier islands. The sand building ocean side will be transported bay side during storms and over wash events. If you look at Google Earth you can see areas on the North end that have much of these over wash areas. This is why Assateague is 'on the move' if you have seen the display signs on the island. It is visible on aerial photography. It shows how Assateague has been migrating landward and Ocean City has remained the same.

    Ocean City, however does not allow for these type of events primarily because of development and dune structure. And frankly there is a lot more at 'stake' on a fiscal scale. This is where a lot of spending comes into play. You have limited options either beach replenishment to keep buildings, businesses, and developers from losing structure or you add beach defense structures such as sea walls, revetments, break waters, etc that often times become eye sores. Both are funded on federal, state, and local levels. Both will support sand bar development over time. Essentially sandbars are barrier islands on a smaller less developed scale. Sand bars will form, just a matter of where and when.

    This is my contribution. I support beach replenishment, It keeps the Eastern Shore beaches and businesses alive.
     
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  12. oceanisnotasbigaswethink

    oceanisnotasbigaswethink Well-Known Member

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    Sep 20, 2010
    OC is actually a baymouth bar not a barrier island.

    So much for surfing alone in the winter........now we can all (on Delmarva) experience the fun of summertime clusterfu(!< surfing beaches in the wintertime too....if there are spots breaking

    .....and some form of beach replenishment is needed to maintain the "beach" infrastructure but our replenishment methods need to evolve to include surfing breaks as well. Sea level rise is an issue too....
     
  13. Sterling

    Sterling Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2010
    Hopefully this link opens, It's information regarding coastal features. It will provide you with more insight regarding coastal features. If link doesn't open, just google search Essentials of Oceanography Ocean City MD. Page 257 is very informative. Paragraph starting with, 'despite these dangers'...

    http://books.google.com/books?id=sr...ity baymouth bar&pg=PA258#v=onepage&q&f=false
     
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  14. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    mid town has been pumped quite a few times in the past and the sand they are using this time is from the same borrow areas, so HOPEFULLLY it wont be more than the usual couple months of shorebreaky conditions and then return to normal. One major northeaster should take the pumped sand and refill the sandbars
     
  15. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
  16. BigDaddyDon

    BigDaddyDon New Member

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    Aug 13, 2008
    48th has been pumped twice that I can remember. It will return, how fast depends on the winter storms!
     
  17. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    we were surfing yesterday when they were driving this thing around in the water right near us. It is a hydrographic survey tool that they use to get a profile of the bottom before pumping. These shots were taken from my balcony near dory beach....
     

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  18. n2waves

    n2waves Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2009
    check the cam....
     

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  19. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I love 48th st. This is off topic, but to all you older guys who live in OC MD? WTF do you all do for a living. I have been contemplating getting back there for a couple years now, but as a restaurant manager and a chef for a wife, we in theory would have work there, but the lack of winter/ off seasonal employment has scared us away from trying... What on earth do you guys do for year round careers????? Im just curious...
     
  20. SurfingOC912

    SurfingOC912 Well-Known Member

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    Dec 13, 2007
    Work in either Berlin or around Salisbury