Legal Weed

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by Jesterface, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    When my state had med bud, it was a smidge cheaper than the prices for recreational purchase.

    We don't have med dispensaries any more, and I'm not quite sure why. I think the state's explanation had something to do with how taxes would be levied and used.

    Personally I think it has more to do with how very little clinical evidence exists on cannabis and its potential medical effectiveness. I think my state pulled out of the med market because their bureaucratic asses would be hung out to dry if and when something negative happens. So much easier to shrug your shoulders and place the blame somewhere else when it's a recreational activity, rather than a tightly regulated and controlled pharma market.

    Again, just my opinion but I think the rest of the states will follow our lead eventually and just go full rec weed.
     
  2. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    it was probably 1994ish, my bro was living in SOCAL and obtained med card for bum knee (multiple surgeries). We always cracked up that he was able to do that...
     

  3. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Disagree.

    With Marijuana becoming legal, I can get a card and still buy from joe blow down the street and no one is any the wiser. If anything, police will care even less about weed, so people that still buy off the radar will have even less heat on them. I highly doubt the cops are going to be heavily enforcing "non-taxed" buds. I doubt cops will be asking every smoker for their cards, probably just start ignoring it completely and only enforcing laws when it cause fights or property destruction, much like they do with alcohol.
     
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  4. NICAfiend

    NICAfiend Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2012
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I voted to legalize medicals because it’s a step in the right direction and figure that makes it easier to take the next step and go recreational. Then it’s do what you want at that point. But I don’t feel I would go through the gov for it unless it’s cheapen AND better.
     
  6. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    My point is the gov't overseeing the recreational use of smoking bud. Not managing card holders. I do like your point about the police caring less. I should have clarified my point relative to recreational versus medicinal
     
  7. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Still yet, I would prefer to be able to grow some green (if I choose to do so) and be left alone. Kyle, would you rather be free to grow a few plants for your personal consumption or have the gov't manage the process for your "enjoyment"?
     
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  8. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    I don't get your logic against legalizing then. The only way you will ever get to grow it is if it it completely legal, not thru decriminalizing, which you stated you preferred before.

    I understand the point you are trying to make about the government controlling something, but there other instances of govt control I have a WAY BIGGER problem with. Legalization is step in the right direction. This is just an assumption, but I would bet people in Colorado and Washington find it easier to grow their own since legalizing. There may be more federal oversight but there will be way less LOCAL enforcement. That is where most of us get in trouble, local po po pinching you for a quarter, not the feds kicking in your door for a couple plants out back.
     
  9. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I think we are having two convos.
    1. Current environment. Lower or Remove the po po's ability to "pinch" me for holding or growing for personal consumption.
    2.gov't control/legalization. If it's legal, then no govt control. Let me enjoy it without the "controls" of the institution.
     
  10. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Name one "legal" thing in America the government doesn't have some type of control over....

    What you are discussing isn't a weed issue, it is a size of government issue. Like I said, I would prefer no control from the government when it comes to weed; however, I can name 1,000 other LEGAL things I would like government to butt the hell out of before pot.

    My point is the trade off is a win in my eyes. Trading more federal oversight for less local actually works out better for John Q. Public.
     
  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    You should see my garden. I grow all kinds of veggies.

    And yes I am talking about a govt issue.
     
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  12. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-11...egal-to-grow-food-in-your-own-front-yard.html

    Jay, you are 100% right about the government oversight is out of control on the individual citizens of this country; but I still can't agree with your thinking decriminalization is a better route for us over legalization. It isn't a perfect solution but it's is better than the laws in place.

    Just seems like using the too much govt oversight argument on weed is like pissing in the ocean of government overreach.
     
  13. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    You used the term federal oversight. Does that include a public registry? Your 'pissing in the ocean' analogy is perfect...gov't overreach!

    I get what you are saying...I just disagree with that route. I have absolutely no problems growing a garden to put food on my table and I like it that way. To each it's own...

    All G Kyle...
     
  14. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    No worries Jay, can't agree on everything.
     
  15. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    agreed.

    I was grabbing some food on the last few post and I was thinking that my view is somewhat euphoric...can you imagine how shitty the weed would be if everybody had to grow their own lol?

    Also, I just read that article you posted on the front yard garden...that sux big time. Scary actually.
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Or think how good you would get at it being able to experiment freely and refine your process over time. Then there’s also the quality control factor where you know exactly what you are getting. Clean and green!
     
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  17. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    The HOA governing bodies and local govt's are out of control down here. I know I am beating a dead drum, but the s*** they put me thru to put solar panels on my house really opened my eyes to the absurd over reach local governments now have.
     
  18. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    ^I was trying to figure out in article if a HOA was involved. That makes more sense...the property owners association bylaws. Courts sided on the bylaws I guess. I can't imagine that happening from a municipality (i.e. city of or county of). Glad I live in a somewhat rural area!
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Rural area??
    No wonder you sound like a hick......
    Hick!! Hick!! Hick!! Yeeeehaaaahhhhhh!!!
    And that is before you smoke el dopo!!!!
    lol
     
  20. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    How do you know?