Localism Article

This type of thread pops up once a week in the Summer. It was only a month ago that myself, Pumpmaster, Lee, and others got our asses chewed out by the shiny, happy people on here for saying that breaks need to be regulated and educated. Not by violence and cussing but by educating people, talking to newbies and groms. Gotta learn to walk before you run. You don't walk into a karate Dojo for the first time and challenge the Sensei in charge. You learn from him, you let him teach you the right path to take.

 

Difference being you actually pay the Sensei to teach you, you can't just walk in and join the class without paying 1st

 

actually when I started kenpo I did a week of classes without paying to see if I liked it

BUT, getting back on topic, what do you do when somebody has no clue in the water? Seems to me like running away does nothing but encourage the bad behavior......

 

Free week trial huh, not bad, but you know what i meant.

 

its not just people having no clue... a big problem is also with the aggo dbags who are making a deciscion to forgo all lineup etiquitte and turn the water into the paddle battle of the year... then acting aggressive if you tell them to knock the **** off.... with like 5 to 10 of his like minded friends doing the same ****. All you can do it just drop in on them like they are doing to you.... summer really has a way of sucking sometimes...

 

I'm not getting how lack of etiquette has anything to do with paddle battles?

 

They don't. but they might not no matter what you do. I guess it all depends on the situation. maybe its the right thing to help people new to surfing figure it all out. Aloha. but i'm no surf guru. i'd rather just go surfing. from what i read of your posts pumpmaster you seem to regulate out there and here when it is needed and thats cool. because you do i don't have too. i think if we surfed the same spots we'd be alright. and i've have your back when you needed it. But id rather try to respect the line up im in and if I do and people see me doing it and getting waves maybe that respect will brush off. I'm also trying not to let it bother me when there is no respect. that is not easy.

 

Ok.... dbag takes wave, I move into the inside spot off the rocks... a bit of a wave lull and dbag has time to paddle right back to the spot where I am, current is moving people off the prime spot, now dbag has paddle his ass off to get the inside spot, eventhough you are paddling to maintain this spot.... wave comes and its now a paddle battle for who is getting it... lineup etiquette has been disregaurded... no?

 

good question
i think thats your wave to miss and he shouldn't even try for it.

 

sure no problems there, but I never said Im off the spot... I've maintained my spot and am ready to go only to have this dbag paddle his ass right up next to me, either inside or out side of me and is aggro going for wave... not too mention the numerous people sitting in the conveyor line...

 

re read my post. i edited. i didn't catch that you were in postion. thats your wave and he shouldn't even try. if the other guys are in no way to get the next wave and did then i think i'd go. i do like taking a break after i paddle back out. but im getting old

 

mmmm, good one. my take on it is: it depends on how the dbag paddles back out. if he paddles out at the far end of the lineup then outside of everybody id say he is legit. probably overly aggressive but legit, then it become the lineups duty to out-postion him. some people say he should get in line an wait his turn but if he goes all the way around to the outside, its not his fault the rest of the line up is not as well-conditioned. Now, if he paddles to the inside of everybody then that is the real dbag move.

 

he walks along the beach to the OTHER side of the rock jetti and then paddles over the rocks to now be on the inside.... I want to kick the sh..i..t out of this dbag but he's got like 10 buddies sitting on beach.... that is the only think keeping me from getting outright in his face... so I the lineup gets krapped on everytime this guy is out...

oh yea.. just one more issue of contention... no friggin leash on a crowded shoreline... I mean its just mind boggling.

 

here's an old trick.. everybody take turns parking in front of him so he cant catch a thing. he'll get the point.

what you said though illustrates my point. If the lineup doesn't band together to enforce things, he will keep doing it.

 

right. thats just how it is. sometimes the right 2 guys will laugh it off after. i been in that situation and losing the battle in which i will yell" i think there a bigger one behind it". its never worked

 

I have surfed all over this globe and some of the worst stink eye and sh*ttiest attitudes in the water have been in Virginia beach and the outer banks. Somebody pulled a machete on my friend in Nicaragua, but that's different, they thought he stole some pigs or something...

 

Man oh man do those Central Americans love their machetes.

 

yeah pretty much... and in the occasion that he can't get to the wave he is yelling at the top of his lungs for his buddy(ies) to start paddling into an oncoming wave no matter where said buddy(ies) is in the lineup....

 

are you guys against the walk around always? sometime there can be a pretty strong sweep. i've paddled out and just drifted with it hitting peaks along the way. then i walk out and do it again. never seemed to be an issue with anyone. usally a sweep like that spreads everyone out.

 

happens all the time in jersey... paddles right out to the peak....

It would be such a great time if we all just surfed together... actually, i take that back, it would be a circus... lol