Longboard Surfboard vs. Skateboard

No problem braddah. I've never been a skater and don't ever plan to be. The Carver is not a skateboard, sorry to all those who'd classify it as one. I can straight screw on a Carver but would be an invalid on a real skate. The Carver is cross-training and a perfect supplement (not substitute) for ocean surfing. Even when you're pushing higher speeds on the Carver, it's still not near as fast as the speed you're at in a good wave. Therefore, your choreography and technical sculpture is done at a slower, and far more precise rate.

Think of your motor skills and mechanics as memory foam. Every rep of a movement is an imprint, for better or worse. The Carver allows you to feel out the necessary mechanics and what impact they have on your execution. They can be modified mid-rep if imperfect since the slower movement speed allows. I've seen for years in two other very technical sports that I'm highly skilled in that having a predominant basis of slower movement training allows you to execute those movements at full speed later on with far greater efficacy.

Brah, get the Carver. You'll be very pleased. PM me anytime with questions or to just rap about it. In the last 6 weeks while I haven't been able to even get 10 sessions in this NE flatness, I've taken a trip to El Salvador, a trip to SoCal, and trained the Carver for hours a day. I've turned more corners in surfing progress in that time by multiples over the rest of my time surfing. Now every time I hit the water, my progress goes through the roof and my ability to see and feel my mechanics while surfing are so much clearer. Get the Carver.

 

Agreed. That's why I made it clear the Carver is an ideal supplement, not substitute for surfing. How many guys on here promoting the LB over the Carver have ridden a Carver? Not only that, but some may be biased to LBs anyway. Brah wants to rip on an SB and has his basics down. Brah needs to then stay specific to SBs with his training.

 

Godspeed Spicoli.

 

Thanks coach....

 

one thing you can't learn from a skateboard is how waves act, how they change, where and when to be. Master that and you can shred on a gnarloo.

 

You're welcome scotty

 

is the carver the board with dual spring trucks and inflatable wheels?

 

There ya go.

 

Nothing has improved my shortboard maneuvers more than my skateboards but nothing has improved my flow and style better than my longboard. Depends what you need now but you're going to want both eventually. That being said, VB has no hills so take that into consideration with the skateboard.

 

I kind of feel like this was directed at me. Yes, I am biased; mostly because I credit my first longboard for making me a better surfer. Yes, I have skated around on a few different Carver boards before.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, Spicoli. By the way, have YOU ridden a *longboard?

*This does not include your "high performance" mid-length.

 

thanks, gaff, that's the whole truth right there!

 

ok. thanks for clarifying. I'm also only familiar with the large CarveBoard which I picked up after College...and as there were no good hills really where I went to College I spent my time riding mine down parking decks. hella fun. I'll check this Carver board out. wow how confusing.

 

Yes carveboards are all different and not analogous to surfing. At least all those I've seen or know of. You typically don't want hills with a Carver as the loose truck can't handle it. You can carve some downhills but speed is a liability on these things. I'm rocking the 36" Jason Adams Pintail a lot lately and that generates and handles speed better than the 31" but is still not a downhill board. Ideally, any slight incline or decline or ramp is what you want.

I've got a few slightly bowled streets and plaza lots right near me that are money. You get to know the exact topography of your terrain very quickly, especially with divots, rocks, and rough pavement. It's helped me a ton with keeping my eyes on the wave ahead and finding sections through the mush.

 

great plugs for the LOGS!
and I'll say it again until you've pulled a big floater on a big ole log you haven't lived! its like landing a 747!

 

DL, my posts were conversational in tone and intention and wasn't directing anything at anyone in particular. Not was I saying that a LB won't help all of one's surfing. Of course any surfing done properly will improve your surfing. The brah was asking what he should spend his next couple hundo on and was explicit with his objectives. In that respect, I've stated why I feel the Carver is his best immediate purchase. Should he get a log too as soon as he can swing the cashish? Hellz yes. He was asking about his next purchase though.

I've ridden a LB. They are obviously great and I've posted before stating that belief. I've also posted many times in jest that they're not the preferred stick but that's playful banter from the peanut gallery in lighthearted fashion. Like you, I attribute my initial progression and acquisition of necessary basics to a bigger, longer, and more voluminous board. If not for that, I'd still be paddling away on a HPSB that I could in no way take flight on at the beginning. For now, longer boards have served their purpose for me and while I've moved on from them for now, I fully recognize their value and may at some point ride them occasionally to regularly. You guys know how focused I am in my objectives and right now that's for SB progression. When I need more float in EC junk I hop on a fish or groveler.

Gaffer, careful with that bug up your backside as if left untreated, it may get parasitic and siphon your nutrients. The WCS will lose his breathtaking luster if malnourished. While I dig it because it shows you got some fight and passion in you, I don't share your distaste for me with an equal one for you. I consider you a very experienced and knowledgeable brah and respect that you've based your location and life around the ability to surf sick waves regularly. That's commitment and something I both understand and live a life by.

All that funny stuff aside, again, I never discredited this guy's use for a LB or said that it doesn't help ones SB game and overall surf game. You're citing the top one-tenth of one percenters of the surfing culture in your last post. Those braddahs are smoking those faces and I love it. Yes, those maneuvers sound and look extremely difficult. At what point did I say otherwise? You're showing dank, clean, 4-6ft waves at one of the best breaks anywhere. The rides I said were relatively fruitless for maneuvering a LB on in typical SB fashion were the ankle-high mush variety. I'll choose my own words, thanks.

If I state something incorrect or inconsistent with fact or popular belief, by all means, let me know. Clearly I've got a thirst for all the knowledge I can get. Saying I'm wrong about most or all of what I say on here is neither founded nor true. If you think so, that's fine with me, and I'll still have a great weekend. I'm spending half of November down in SD with the good brahs, so perhaps I'll have to meet you at your break. Not to duke it out, but to learn how the hell you go a whole sesh without getting that hair wet. Because THAT, my dear WC Swami, is radical.

FREE WILL

 

I don't kno if im getting the message of the thread that u want to improve your shortboarding skills with a longboard even tho u can ride a shortboard?i thought the thread was about deciding to get one of those longskateboards or a regular skateboard.if u can ride a shortboard ok and have no trouble catchin waves,maybe get a regular skateboard and practice riding bowls at the nearest skatepark.longboard surfing will help u catch more waves but if u already shortboard I don't really see the point.idk,id say just keep doin what ur doin on ur shortboard and youll get better in time.for flat days its always good exercise to go skateboard.even if ur not bustin kickflips n shyt,loosin up your trucks and go down a big hill.itll be a little wobbly and shaky which should help getting down a big bumpy face

 

True dat big daddy cep. The tightly wound folk get unraveled now and then at a few of us and go way OT.

Speaking of, it's the freakin weekend. Let's score!