LongBoarde Tread Advise.

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by nalu222, Aug 9, 2017.

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  1. nalu222

    nalu222 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 11, 2010
    Hey all. I need some advise about longboards.. I learned to surf on a Stewart LSP which is considered by most a performance log. I absolutely loved that board and surfed it for 15 years but now it is old an water logged and surfs like a rock. So I picked up a Dewey Weber Stylist off craigslist. Its a nose rider and has no rocker too it. I love this board too but I bury the nose alot on the drops because of the lack in rocker. So, I am looking for an in between. Something I can nose ride but also has enough rocker to make the drops and turn on a dime. Any thoughts..
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I have a nice HPLB / Nose Rider that Greg Geiselman at Orion shaped for me that is pretty much what you describe. Maybe contact him or another shaper who's good w/LB's. They'll dial you up something suite.
     

  3. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    Hey Nalu are you sure there is no rocker? I've seen a few and they are flat from the tip to about third of the way back then the rocker kicks up quite a bit. Between that and the belly bottom it should make the drop and turn from the tail really well. Even if you bury the nose you can ride out of it. Think about it. It was designed for hot dogging.

    Went to a more traditional noserider myself and it took some getting used to. Realized I was a little too far up on the board when paddling when I stood up. Once I moved down I was taking off steeper than I was on a more HP long board with less paddling and making almost everthing. I was turning better too. Just a thought.

    The board I was riding before that was a August What I Ride. Good all rounder right there.
     
  4. foamieswithmyhomies

    foamieswithmyhomies Well-Known Member

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    Sep 18, 2014
    Surfed a foamie a few weeks back (surprising given my name) which was the first time getting on a board (fiberglass or otherwise) over 6-6 in over a year. I thought it would be cake since I'm used to my 6-0 but damn thing took forever to get used to. Pearling city for sure. Yuck. I need to get a proper log for those knee high days too.
     
  5. nalu222

    nalu222 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 11, 2010
    Yeah man. There's only 2 inches of rocker from the nose to about 3ft back, then it goes flat. you have to be from that point forward for the board to plane properly. Which has its purpose. Classic 60's noserider. I can make the drops but I have to be so far back it pearls. I have just been spoiled with the LSP all these years. The Dewey is good for nice roll in waves, but the majority of waves where i surf are very pitchy and shallow even on small days. I checked and I would have to custom order from Bill to get another LSP (mucho deniro) , so I am looking into other designs at the moment.

    DP. good idea. local shaper.shawn o'donnell makes a lot off boards around here
     
  6. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    100% on GG
     
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Right on man, you'll get exactly what you want that way and will cost you the same or less than off the rack. Plus it has your name written on it, which is suite.

    Yeah man, you know what's up. I haven't ridden one of his SB's yet though like you, but considering it. It's hard for me to stray from Coil on my SB's though, we'll see what the future holds.
     
  8. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 30, 2008
    Although they have become the choice for kooks the Walden Magic Model is an excellent board for noseriding and performance surfing.
     
  9. sheetglass

    sheetglass Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    Condolences on the Stewart


    How much $$ are you looking to spend? You could always go to Greg Eavey, Will Allison, the guys at Savage Surfboards (SOD being one), Ian Balding and tell them exactly what you said here. Pardon me if I forgot anyone else who makes a good longboard around here. Although I've seen you surf that old Stewart well enough where I think you'd be able to adapt to the Weber pretty fair given some time.
     
  10. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    I've never surfed a Coil, but am highly intrigued. My thinking is big wave fall = good wave step up for an old dude: 6'9" CI squash tail aboot 19.5 wide and 2.75 thick for the quickness.

    My daughter's LB that I use now (my wife destroyed my HPLB - redhead rage) is made in Melbourne Beach by Eddie Suxberry -Mindless brand. It's real loose, lots of rocker, real easy to turn, and kind of heavy, so when it gets going it gets going and going. It can plow through some choppe and get back into the clean stuff and maintain speed.

    It's too loose for a real good wave, I'd love to see what Greg does with his HPLB shapes. I'm sure they fly thru the gnar and can be ridden in all size surf.
     
  11. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Look into a Robert August if you want a proven shape. Or a Roy Stuart if you want to really be a style master. His shapes rule if you want to go from point A to point B in the most efficient way. You could mount a stripper pole on one of those beasts, and still have room for an EZ Chair with a rocket launcher with rod holders to catch some snapper one way or the other.
     
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  12. CarolinaCutback

    CarolinaCutback Well-Known Member

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    Jul 27, 2017
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    You can try either one of my Coils if you're in the area. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how easy they paddle, catch waves, and best of all, perform. Same with my LB, you're welcome to test it out. It's an amazing ride, very nimble but not too loose if footwork is good.
     
  14. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    You're awesome for offering. If this blob trends north I'll be making a trek with snacks and supplies
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Right on dude, you know where I be at. :cool:
     
  16. nalu222

    nalu222 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 11, 2010
    Hey man, hope your doing well, Looking to spend around $800..I am giving the stewart to a chick to paint and hang up on a wall, my original plan was to burn it ceremoniously.. I buckled it at Sandstone for the 2nd time and figured it was time to move on.. And yeah I will keep the Webster for those soft mushy days, the dimensions are just to big for me 9' 23.25" 3.25'.. and I actually just picked up a Joel Tudor Papa Joe model the other day, its super performance, like something you would see the dudes ride at the end of Big Wednesday. I can ride it in the small stuff but its def not a nose rider per say and meant for waves with more punch.. So that's why I am looking for something in between shapes...
     
  17. sheetglass

    sheetglass Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    Doing well despite not surfing all that much lately, only here and there this summer. Been bitten by the golf bug of all things, lol. But it sounds like you're chasing something fairly specific, and do have some cash to spend. Maybe check this out? https://wilmington.craigslist.org/spo/d/stewart-long-board/6219427148.html. Although it looks narrower than I remember that Stewart looking but I bet it's got a fair bit of rocker. If it were me in that situation though, I'd find a reputable board builder (local or otherwise) and articulate what it was I wanted in as much detail as possible. Life's too short to ride boards you don't like. Maybe just get another of the same Stewart?
     
  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    WTF?!? You got a Tudor Papa Joe? Post pics and quit whining aboot needing a decent LB for Gods sake. WTF? Good night sir!
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I was just in one of our local surf shops (I was bored as hell) and they had a couple of Tudors--they look nicely made, but too tanky for me.
    Maybe when I get old.........
     
  20. WesB

    WesB Well-Known Member

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    Dec 30, 2008
    Hey Nalu, if you want to try a Stewart Redline 11 hit me in PM. Tony had mine in his shop for a while trying to sell it...you can see if it is what you want or are looking for.