Looks like the Ukrane

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by chicharronne, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    I guess u missed the part when I stated I am ukranian.I speak 4 languages,polish,ukranian,Russian,and English.yes its not the same but its pretty damn close.its like njersians,Monmouth county surfers hating on ocean county surfers.crimea was given to Ukraine as a gift,by the pm of Russia,who was ukranian.

    remember Chernobyl?who did we blame for that?
    Russia!!!
    guess what,Chernobyl is Ukraine and not far from my hometown.

    its just the double standards that get me.i keep hearing the word sovereignty,we need to respect ukraines sovereignty,u mean like iraqs sovereignty?nobody cared when they were burning down the time square in keiv,toppling Russian war hero statues,the same guy who saved Europe from the Nazis.now Russia comes in to restore power and order and its the cold war all over.

    I respect putin like a man.if u know anything about soviet history,putin is definitely the friendliest and less evil.i keep seeing this "Russian Nazi bs" when Russia saved Europe and the jews from Germany.america didn't stop the Nazis.when Germany invaded Russia,russia kicked the shyt out of them.

    theres ukranians that want to stay with the eu,and theres ukranians who want to be with Russia.they keep calling putin a dictator,when it was the parliament that voted to send troops to Ukraine.ukraine is russias territory,its not like America invading Afghanistan.the ukranian locals are giving sandwhiches to the Russian troops,taking "selfies" with them,waving Russian flags.cnn and fox show a complete different picture.i still have family in Ukraine,and they are more afraid of America intervening.

    and this soveringty bs,Syria,iran,Iraq all soverign nations.when we invaded Iraq,did u see Iraqi children giving sandwhiches to American forces?
    and mis,don't think im taking a stab at u,im just tired of reading all this propaganda the news is promoting and I have to share my words.next im writing a letter to the nypost,aka the Nazi post
     
  2. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    I hear ya cep, I did miss that part, 4 languages, good on ya, I kinda got one down pretty good, lol


    We had a Ukrainian girl stay with us on couchsurfing for a week or so....she HATED Russia.... she made mad good borscht though
     

  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I think the IDEA of having leaders is OK, if the leaders would actually lead. If they would do what they could to help the country they lead instead of helping people that give them money.... But that will never happen.

     
  4. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    they never will lead, they never had led in the past, and they are currently pilfering and stealing.... so why is it ok? You love your authority boy
     
  5. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Not really true. The germans pushed almost to Moscow and really beat the hell out the Red Army. Winter and a more active western front turned the tide. It was really a team effort. The western powers couldnt have done it on their own but the Russians couldnt have either.
     
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  6. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Yea, but the Russians paid the butchers price, UK/USA got off light
     
  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    or had better leadership. and don't tell a Marine fighting in the south pacific we got off light.
     
  8. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    I was implying in the Euro theater, my Sicilian grandfather was in pacific (other one was seabee on D-day), I am aware.....however, no matter how you add it up, Russia paid with more lives

    its odd too, High School history texts focus on the Euro Holocaust and ignores the mass murder in Russia that outnumbered the euro one by about 5-20:1 depending on how you count deaths (civilians vs soldiers, etc)
     
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  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    got it. They did, but how much of that was horrible leadership?
     
  10. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Something like 40 million right?
     
  11. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    does having a horrible leader make them any less dead?
     
  12. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    with estimates as high as 100 million
     
  13. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Did you not read boy? That is what I was saying. The idea is ok, but it will never happen... You like to come at me even when I agree with you.

     
  14. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    You are ok with a leader so long as they are just (which is a fiction), I am not ok with any leader, how is that agreeing?
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I was agreeing with the fact that they will never actually lead, so it is fiction...
    I would be OK with someone that had the best interest of humanity taking the lead. Instead of leading for their own personal gain or their party's agenda... They all suck


     
  16. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    and they never argued with each other again......
     
  17. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    THIS JUST IN!

    nope.