Lunada Bay Boys

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Valhallalla, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    i have mixed feelings about this. I think localism is a critical element of surfing. Unfortunately, many of the "locals" tend to be overprivelledged people who can afford to spend all of their time at the beach.

    True status as a local is earned, not born into.

    I think that the destruction of this clubhouse, at a beach Ive never surfed but have heard of often, represents something about the direction in which surfing culture is headed, and may not be positive.


    However, it will all be about the way in which the true local community responds that will set the precedent.
     
  2. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Localism is dying out. It is the one thing you can thank "cams" and computers for doing. There are some holdouts, usually remote places, but now, with GPS etc, they will disappear as well.
    In its stead we now have crowd fights,i.e., collisions and drop ins leading to beachside fist fights.
    Either way, it is the same exact same thing, just evolved to a different niche.....
     

  3. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    What Barry are these guys not morons to you?
     
  4. DonQ

    DonQ Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2014
    Localism is not dying out. If anything it will only strengthen, with the number of beginner surfers that have no clue about respect in the line-up and wave etiquette, there will be no other choice for locals but to keep others in check.
    Surfing for most, is a "free for all" with limitless boundaries except for access to the break. Once there you are on your own and need to deal with situations that sometimes can be life threatening. This is where the game changes.
    People need to be more responsible for their actions and not be so quick to point fingers when they are denied certain priveliges that others have and fought for to maintain the natural balance. Unfortunately that's the world we live in and it will continue long after we are gone.
    I've seen heavy localism first hand and it's something I personally do not agree with. There are many places around the world that I would enjoy to surf and have crossed boundaries more often than I care to admit. Yet I understand and respect the sanctity in which these places have been founded.
    But yea, tearing down a club-house is funny!
     
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  5. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    I'm with barry on this one, localism is definitely not like it used to be. Seems like it peaked in the 80's where locals were trying to own even ****ty breaks, and now except for a few rare spots it's largely a free for all. I'm all for some regulating when called for, but if people are respectful, and they are not outmatched by the surf, then they should have equal access to the waves without question. The only advantage you should have as a local should be your knowledge of the break, where to sit, how it breaks, which will get you your waves. A bit of smart jockeying never hurts either.
     
  6. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Localism should be replaced by local knowledge. Propere sand reconne, knowing your area and what breaks when and how, and having your local spots wired ensures you'll get your share of waves. But even with all that knowledge you're bound to make a bad call once in a while. Still happens to me...
     
  7. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    The last 2 incidences of "localism" I witnessed ended up in front of a magistrate, the locals being charged with felony assault, as they should be. The "new generation" of surfers are much more prone to dial 911 and drive the assailants to court.
    I have no doubt the Lunada crew faced exactly that.
    And yes, knowledge of your breaks favors you. I still know when to go where, at what tide, etc, to get mostly, but not always, surf time all by my lonesome.
     
  8. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    Most east coast jetties offer one main prime peak when it's on, natural order prevails- always has always will.

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    In philosophy, the natural order is the moral source from which natural law seeks to derive its authority. It encompasses the natural relations of beings to one another, in the absence of law, which natural law attempts to reinforce.
     
  9. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Trev totally nailed the localism thing, he has a surf knowledge well beyond his years.

    One major thing that's been overlooked in the PV localism story is that the PV cops have been almost 100% complicit over the years. Innocent interlopers have been making reports about Lunada locals for decades to no avail, as the cops have generally sided with the community they are paid to protect.

    Lunada was the worst, but try surfing Indicators or Haggerty's at PV. It's almost nearly as bad.

    When Windansea's localism was as bad or worse than Lunada, the cops were the same exact way.

    And let's not talk about any of the Sunset Cliffs breaks south of Ladera Street. Not too many cops are gonna be around spots that you need to access by climbing down a 20 foot rope tied to a stake at the top of a cliff.

    Every time surfing progresses, localism dies a little bit.
     
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  10. stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

    746
    Dec 21, 2010
    They actually helicoptered in workers and jack hammers and repelled down a rope to do this work. All to demo a little rock fort that grown men acting like kids hung around? HAHAHA...California is a funny place.
     
  11. stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

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    Dec 21, 2010
    The only people I see throwing around localism now on the EC are angry middle aged dudes that are unhappy they are still surfing their ****ty spot while everyone else moved away a long time ago. The younger generation that rips could care less. They are ollieing over people in the water and having fun with it.
     
  12. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    i dont know man, where I live in the pacific northwest localism is heavy. Usually you surf alone, but if there is a crowd you better believe they have all known each other for 10+ years and wont smile and wave at newcomers. No cameras, and always roll up alone or else. Better sit on the shoulder or else etc.

    Your generally fine if you show respect and play by the rules but even surfers from the three towns within 45 minutes of each other here give each other the stink eye at certain breaks. i mean f u c k whole groups of young surfing families have been thrown out of town due to their belief that "its everyones ocean man"

    Alot of the good breaks here you get put on probation for a few years to see if you f u c k up. That means if you bring a friend (even a lifelong friend in town visiting) to certain breaks your beat down or exiled. Same goes for dropping in, or taking photos. Go pros get broke so no one even bothers having em.

    Theres certain breaks here that I simply won't surf if I see certain trucks in the parking lot etc. Sitting in the lineup you can look down a beach and know every surfer by name from a 1/4 mile away just by their board or what suit they're wearing. Everyone knows everyone, and the legacy is like 30+ years deep. Its like the wild-west out here.
     
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  13. foamieswithmyhomies

    foamieswithmyhomies Well-Known Member

    379
    Sep 18, 2014
    That sounds like a joy
     
  14. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Were I you, I would say things to members of each of the 3 towns so as to start feuds between them all. Then provide them with guns. "Your sister is a whore" is what Sam told me, "Oh, did I tell you? I have this cool .357 Magnum revolver here....Oh, look, Sam is coming to surf here!!. Maybe he is looking for your sister?"
    That should work just fine with the knuckle draggers you are surrounded with.
     
  15. UnfurleD

    UnfurleD Well-Known Member

    863
    Jul 13, 2016
    I actually like the fort idea haha. Localism, ehhh not so much. it's nobody's beach unless it's privately owned. I know some ppl get hooked on spots, but there should be spots elsewhere to migrate to when there's a crowd. I've got 7 backup places on the beach in mind when my fav spot is crowded out. i think my beach is 4 miles end to end. pretty sure there's enuff water in the West Coast to have multiple back up plans to avoid crowds. but that's the lifestyle you all (West Coasters) built out there, so if it's buggin anybody out then they are free to roam elsewhere - just don't bring that sht to the East Coast. Barber was telling me today that a friend from PA knows a lot of localism up north. must be talking about Belmar
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Let them kill each other off, then have the waves all to yourself, clever!
     
  17. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    ...or just keep 'em stocked up with plenty of crank and/or chiba. You'll never see them in the water again.

    OTOH, your car and residence will constantly be raped for anything worth over $1.
     
  18. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    words of wisdom ol barry.these days u get into a fight,not only will someone call the cops,but 10 other people will film it with their cellphones and the judge gives u time for a youtube video lol.

    I never really experienced any kind of localism in jers,theres always an empty beach somewhere.certain people like to flock to specific spots.thats not my style.

    lol I seen people walk 200 yards past empty firing fr8 train barrels to go surf a jetty with 15 other people.i guess people feel safer in a group but it just makes things more dangerous
     
  19. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012

    lol barry this is pretty epic man start a Hatfield Mc-coy esc feud for future generations between port orford, gold beach, and brookings oregon.
     
  20. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Oh yeah, I can see it now. Putting your wetsuit on in the brush, when some scraggly toothless inbred sumbyotch with a Budweiser spit can and a stainless Bowie knife rocks up to you and asks, "Be you a Hatfield, or be you a McCoy".