Same. I mean, I'm usually surfing well known beach breaks with the other longboarders - no-one should be getting all twisted over these waves. I assume the various points around get more tribal, given the limited take off spots (and usually parking).
Well, not taking anything away from you EC guys, because you occasionally have awesome surf. But for the most part, everything below Montauk all the way to Sebastian Inlet (with a few exceptions of course) is just indistinguishable beachbreak. Let's face it, how many guys are gonna get protective about a wave that you can move down a peak or two and get the same exact wave? California's got some similar beaches, but none of them have any real localism. You only find that sh1t at waves that were or are considered unique, particularly reefs and points. Just my .02 cents
We've got lotsa spots in Jerzy where the takeoff spot is about as big as a boardwalk pizza. Not that it's "localism," but good luck getting a wave there if the locals are on it.
Damn right bro! Nothing " indestinguishable beachbreak" about our zone. Our spots flare up with every different swell direction in its own special way. But if they don't know?? "OK IT SUCKS HERE". hahahah.
its all beach breaks.some of the best waves in the world are beach breaks.ocean beach san fran,puerto Escondido,nazare,belmar lol. points and reefs are easy compared to beach breaks.its always shifting,thers not 1 distinct spot its going to break.nothing wrong with a frames.and being a beach break u can surf anywhere u want
Never heard of localism like this and I've surfed some heavy places. What state? Whole families thrown out of town? Sounds like a bit of BS honestly dude.
oregon, the familes in question moved from Bend (hipster central) to port orford. The guy who started it all was informed he was fat and a kook upon dropping in on a local. Hey was told to leave, the guy didn't and over the course of a few months filed a restraining order against said locals due to multiple incidences. His family and a few other young families relocated from bend and ashland tried to band together to make their own "anti local" wannabee surf gang thing. Long story short none of them live there anymore.
This Bay Boys thing seems pretty rare. I have surfed in a lot of places ( West,East coast U.S., Central Am, P.R. etc.) never been bothered. The one time I got some crap was in New Smyrna Fl. An older guy( 50's ?) got in my face when I sat still on my board as he shot towards me on his longboard. Said I needed to " get out of his way". I just paddled a little further up the beach. Not worth a confrontation. Always gonna be some people that are just mad at life for whatever.
True. But it is exactly that wave characteristic you describe, that creates the problem. In other words, with miles and miles of beach breaks exactly the same, why is it that surfers congregate around the first guy out?? Well, Barry Cudas axiom: "First surfer in the water determines where the crowd will be". Now, why that happens can be attributed to a couple of things: 1) fear of sharks, or, 2) Surfers are truly gay.
I find the people who paddle out to me when I'm surfing alone are out of towners who think I know something... little do they know...
Nah brah, you misunderstood. I know y'all got some great waves. My point was that very few beach breaks in California have localism, with the exception of a few well known breaks. Generally, instances of localism at 98% of California beach breaks are held at spots that have jetties or piers. Don't wanna get hassled? Surf away from reefs, points, jetties and piers. Everything else is fair game. Sounds stupid, but them's the rulez.
Yeah that's the case some times. Other times it's a safety in numbers thing, except it's the opposite IMO. I feel safer when I'm not dodging people on the paddle back out or avoiding someone when I'm making the drop or have to go around the deer in head lights. Surfing is stress free when solo. I have fun with a friend or two but even then, they think it's cute sometimes to jockey for the same wave and sh*t happens. lol Whatever though, we're all knuckleheads. It's the trail of smoke behind me...
he was comparing it to the west coast. While jerz does have a few nice reef breaks, one or two wannabe point set ups, and some good inlets it is predominantly sand bottom beach break that breaks comparatively close to shore and can't handle swell periods in excess of 14 seconds. Peak A along LBI or Sandyhook or Belmar is pretty much the same as peak B at least when compared to lowers vs churches etc. Additionally, the sand shifts so even if theres a good bar it may not be there in a week. Not the case for many of the localized spots on the westcoast. My most localized spots around here produce rides in excess of 300 yards allowing for 10 turns or more on an average day. It gets better when its good. An average day in jerzy is waiste to chest high shorepound barrels, although it gets good occasionally (once a month most of the year, few times a month in the winter with good being well overhead clean conditions.)
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