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Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Mr.Belmar, Jun 14, 2015.
It isn't 4PM yet. hahaha!!
Ha!! How true, fungus. How true. Strange girl, btw, but hey, in America she can choose to be anything she wishes as long as she hurts no one.
For instance, we all choose to be "assholes", so we act it out on this forum!! How cool is that??!!??
For food OK. But random killing?? I have tried fin soup, it ain't bad.
When just out of college I belonged to a SCUBA club. Because I am a biologist by education, work and avocation, I wrote articles on sea life for the monthly club newspaper. When we went on group dives, I would see other divers kill skates just for the fun of it. I asked why they did it? "For fun" they answered. Next month, they saw their names listed as deviants in the club newspaper, chastised. hahahaha!! They never forgave me. It was a dumb ass club, so I quit soon thereafter.
Barry you're not suggesting that the fins in shark fin soup are harvested ethically and sustainably are you? I love you but, come on man, they cut the fins off and throw the rest away.
I don't understand what you mean?
I'm not afraid of gays nor do I want them killed, I just think it sucks that they are taking over the world and that their rights are trumping everyone elses rights. I also think it is an abomination. that Time magazine declared 2013 "The Year of The Gay".
I am not afraid of towel heads, I'm just sick of hearing about the war over there and them killing innocent people over here. If you go over to the middle east and get jihaded then so be it, just as if you go into the ocean and get eaten so be it. When they bring that holy war crap to our soil I have a problem with it. If sharks start walking up on land and killing people then by all means I will be the frist one there waiting to blow one of their heads off.
I'm not afraid of tree huggers I just think they need to understand that we cannot keep the earth looking like it did 100, 1000 or 1,000,000 years ago. Progress is the natural way of things and sometimes trees got to go.
I agree - it would be best to utilize the whole animal. And yes, there is a strong question of ethics regarding that misuse. That very misuse has led to many creatures being pushed to the brink of extinction--ivory and elephants is a classic example. But it won't be long before fin fishermen have trouble finding sharks in the numbers they seek. The problem there is that the market response then is to pay EVEN MORE for the fins, further accelerating a population decrease. But, as I reflect on my life and these type of situations, only rarely does mankind response positively to troubled creatures that are remote from their every day pets. We think seals are cute, so they are protected and very few are poached. But sharks?? Snakes ?? spiders?? No amount of legislation will stop their slaughter, even if OUR population would depend on them (which it does in the interconnected web of life).
I caught a 30 inch black tip on North Topsail last night. I hit it over the head with an oar to stun it so I could get the hook out. It's the only hook I had left. I got it back in the water and told him if he or his peeps come after me that I will catch him again and cut his nuts off. I surfed the 3 hours around low tide out on the bar with no sightings. I think they got the message.
Can we accurately measure every animal in the ocean? No.
Could a half-century of pillaging the ocean with destructive industrial trawlers have a negative affect on shark population? I would imagine so.
Humans... dumping poison and garbage into the ocean, while we ransack it blindly for food. And this is conducive to exploding shark populations how?
Aside from the larger seal population, what have humans done that could possibly reverse the negative effects that we are having on shark populations?
If you believe that the limited legislation passed by 'conservationists and tree huggers' has more of an effect than the industrial processes of the world economy, then you have a serious misunderstanding of how our world works.
I know some of you guys are just trolling, and I hope you all are, but some of you are f*cking delusional.
My mom always said, "Never underestimate the stupidity of the human population" when we would converse on mans treatment of nature. She was right. We have not gotten it straight yet. I am often taken aback how long it took for industrial nations to realize that hunting for whales is, not only of little value to us, but really absolutely dumb to continue. On that one, Greenpeace has it right. But ultimately, we are driving our very selves to extinction, which as far as the planet and other life forms are concerned, may be the best thing to happen!! Like, dude!! Hurry up and die, ya facking humans!!
for all u ocean experts lol,do u know nasa scientists know more about space than whats at the bottom of the ocean?nobody knows.not me,not you,not the guy over there,not ur boss,not ur mom.
its called balance lol.sharks are needed to keep the oceans ecosystem alive.ever hear how wolves saved Yellowstone national park?same scenario with the sharks.they had a hunting thing for the wolves,killed them all off,so deer overpopulated,drank the streams dry,the fish died,deer ate most of the agriculture,species were dying off.so they brought the wolves in,wolves killed the deer,no more deer to drain the water supply and eat all the grass.its a lot deeper than that I just don't remember all the details.
basically its like this,u kill all the sharks,jellyfish populations skyrocket,and nobody can even dip a toe into the ocean without getting stung.is that what u people want,to not even get a toe in,let alone surf?!!!lol.its real shyt people,science murdafukaers.
in other news Belgian is promoting unsafe sex,due to their population downsizing.they want more kids.but its mostly rich people,and do u know why they are so rich,because they don't have kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is how the wolves saved Yellowstone.
it starts with such a great quote.yea they kill,but give life to so many others
Solid post Cep!
I'm not promoting killing sharks. I just think it's crazy that people care so much about them. At least pick a mammal for your masturbation
Cep... The Yellowstone case is a classic, and studied all over the world.
A similar thing happens in oceans with top predators... sharks and even rays. Without getting too technical, healthy shark populations increase biodiversity and individual population density (sounds contradictory, but it's true), and even change the behaviors of prey species to the degree that entire ecosystems become more niche rich and diverse.
Another simple fact is that there will never be an overpopulation of top predators, in terrestrial or marine ecosystems, except for humans... at least so far.
I saw something recently about this isolated bunch of jelly fish that lost their stingers because there is nothing to defend them selves from. They had no need for that mechanism so they evolved to not having the ability to sting. Weird stuff happens in nature when the ecosystem is thrown out of whack like taking out an apex predator.
Mmm, poor little feller. He's was no bigger than a squirrel. Alrighty then.
It's amazing the effect this has had in our area. I went for a bike ride earlier and by the time I got back home I was dripping wet in sweat so I went to the access across the street for a quick swim. The beach was pretty crowded and the temperature was 100 degrees and hardly a sole was in the water. People looked in amazement as I swam way out at low tide and when I got out an older lady told me how brave I was. Now, if this will just start keeping tourons home.