Mini-simmons from from old Longboard

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by pkovo, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

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    May 20, 2011
    Is that a trials bike in the background? Looks like my Planet-X sans paint.
     
  2. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    Impressive. Not too many people could identify a trials frame, let alone the brand. Its a planet x zebdi. I have one built up, thats my spare frame. They're pretty rare these days. Started stripping the paint but never finished.
     

  3. goosemagoo

    goosemagoo Well-Known Member

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    May 20, 2011
    The oval-ish downtube & short seattube caught my eye. I had a Jack Flash back in the lifetime warranty days. Broke it and got a Zebdi as a replacement. Haven't ridden much in the past 2 yrs. Time to get back on it during the flat spells. At least that's what my waistline says...my shins, not so much.
     
  4. live4truth

    live4truth Well-Known Member

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    Feb 9, 2007
    Blank looks fine--i wouldn't necessarily take a surform or sand any areas unless you still have foam pulling away from the blank. Honestly, I would just take down the stringer with a block plane use some gorilla glue or spray insulation foam on the areas wherein you tore out the foam--reshape and then glass it. No use in over investing. Glassing it should be relatively easy--tons of videos online that can give you a perspective. Hope you have fun!
     
  5. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    "....use some gorilla glue or spray insulation foam on the areas wherein you tore out the foam...."

    Damn, I didn't even think about filling the pulled off rail back in. I just kind of assumed I would have to trim it in, then do the other side to match, losing some width

    THANKS
     
  6. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Polyester resin will be cheaper, but stinky and harder to work with. Epoxy will be much more user friendly. Before you glass it, and after you finish shape it, you should get a few colors of paint and do a foam stain... just pour the paint on in drizzles, and squeegee it off in a swirly pattern. It will let you get your art buzz on, and help camouflage/cover the ugly, mottled foam underneath. Two layers of 4oz deck, one layer bottom. Glass on some keels.
     
  7. garbanzobean

    garbanzobean Well-Known Member

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    Sep 15, 2010
    Plan on a shaped blank that might net out 2" max thickness if you are lucky. That delaminated area is way down deep in the blank. You will see after you start picking at it some. Impossible to glass when the foam is breaking down, it's like glassing dirt-only sticks to the top layer. That's the thing about delamed boards, it's not that the glass comes off the foam it's the foam that breaks down and turns to dust. Could buy some pour foam and rebuild but then why not get a blank? Great stuff won't work very well, it's too soft. That's an old Cream, a Tony Giordano sourced board from Lavalette, NJ. Looks like she had a full life, that's for sure. Cut her in half and make a tombstone or some fine art. Something befitting an old warhorse.
     
  8. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    I don't think it's one of Tony's. His are under the CREME label, this one was CREAM. It was shaped by Bill Shrosbree and glassed at Moonlight in CA. Bill shaped my Stewart longboard as well, and currently shapes for Fresh Pinapples. I can't see him having shaped for Tony, but who knows, it's possible.

    I hope your wrong about the foam. You were the one that told me not to polish my turds right? Well, I'm polishing baby! Seriously, I don't really have a burning desire to shape a board, so I'm not in a hurry to run out and buy a blank. This board is here taking up space, and I have no other use for it other than hucking it in a dumpster, so if I can make something out of it great, if not, oh well, no great loss. I have pretty realistic expectations of it (LOW). However, if I have to scrape it down really thin, I do have three kids, and at some point they'll want to push passed the community soft-top...I hope. It is much thinner that I prefer given what I'm doing, but it's worth a shot I think.

    As for a hard life, that is an understatement. I lived in the former Camp Osborne section of Mantoloking (burned down compliments of that ***** Sandy) and when I moved out, I left the board down there as kind of a "community board". The thing floated around the neighborhood, and everyone used it for a damn long time. My old roomate used to paddle out and fish from it when he couldn't reach the schools from the beach. It's flown off my roof and skidded down rt 35., it's travelled up and down the east coast....twice. Definitely had a full life. I want her to go out in a blaze of glory!

    LBCREW, as for paint, any specific type? I have a crap load of regular interior paint leftover, but I'm guessing that's not the right kind. My wife is an art teacher, so I have access to all kinds of paint that might be useful for middle school art projects. Any fear of paint effecting the bond to the foam? Need to thin it at all? I was thinking of not painting the blank, but spraying it with krylon or something after it's glassed to hide all the blemishes.
     
  9. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    You could do whatever... just have fun with it. I've painted boards with all kinds of stuff... even good old Ben Moore house paint. You want an acrylic latex... that's all. Just don't gob it on and you'll get a good bond. I've used straight up paint from a can and rolled it on with a roller. Total ghetto garage job, but the results were amazing. You could even get some opaque pigments and glass it opaque. As for the foam breaking down... yea... the foam is not like new foam, in that it's had years of stress and strain. But if you clean up the surface with a light sanding, you will be able to glass it. You just have to remove any loose material and dust. Beneath the surface is "good" foam.

    You're making something out of nothing, dude. Just have fun...