More mid length madness...

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by Roy Stuart, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Dude by all means talk shop with Roy. I've said before I think his wooden boards are beautiful. I have a problem with his attitude that his way is the only right way and that boards should only surf the way his do (straight down the line). Roy is too much of an egomaniac to realize that people can have views that do not match his and it still be okay. It's just too hard for me to seperate Roy's ignorance on the world to talk about any knowledge he may have of surf craft.

    Tell us what you think of Rarrick of Great Gnome of NZ? What about Channel Islands and WRV? How about all the NAzi death camps, did they exist or not Roy?
     
  2. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    The short answer is that it allows the board to be thinner ( in terms of maximum thickness) for a given volume. I originally came up with the idea to promote flex, but it has other benefits.

    By the way beware of thinking that my views are what carter or some of the other trolls say they are.
     

  3. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    ... but I don't think that, and they don't.


    Here's an idea for you: try to get through a week without posting defamatory content, you might find it refreshing.
     
  4. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Board thickness (or thinness) is deceptive. I have a home shaped 5'8" mini simmons that is barely 2" thick at the thickest point, but is 22 1/2" wide and carries a lot of that thickness out to the rails and ends. The board is a 5'8" that is 2" thick that will easily float and paddle a 170-190 pound guy all day long. At 160, it floats me like a mini longboard.
     
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thats what she said
     
  6. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Yeah that's how it works. It's also difficult to get a feel for the size and volume of a board via pictures.

    The third board in this 8 foot series is 2.5" thick and has 64 litres of volume, she'll be glassed up next:

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  7. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Here's an idea for you, take your planer and run it over that nasty ass thing you call a face. Your blog post I linked yesterday had you ripping Firewire apart and calling them all sorts of names and saying how terrible they are. You have always said that the surf industry pumps out crap and the sheepole just buy it because Slater and other pros ride it.
     
  8. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    probably work a lot better if you put the fin at the other end.
     
  9. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I agree. If anyone wrote that on this forum people would be lining up to slurp them and nominate them for HOTY. Good stuff. Wish i could write like that.....guess I'll stick to the occasional picture.
     
  10. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I would have to agree with that. Additionally, they ride the crap because they are paid to.
     
  11. White Sea Ape

    White Sea Ape Well-Known Member

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  12. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    While it may be true others feel that Roy's stuff is crap or overpriced or inferior for whatever reason. Just as CI, WRV and others take criticism so too should Roy. But intead he lashes out like a douche nozzle full of gunky cooter cheese.
     
  13. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    This has been said on here a bunch of times, but I still find it hard to believe. You really think there are pro guys surfing at a level where they're are getting paid to ride for CI, JC, Lost, JS, DHD....whatever...dislike the inferior boards they are getting, and stick with the shaper/boards they dislike out of money?

    Obviously these lightly glassed, thinned out, rockered out sticks would be a crap choice for many surfers, and none of us will ever be getting Darren Handley to personally make us a custom, but I've never seen the reason why the pros would have any need to stay on **** boards.
     
  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Don't sell yourself short, you ain't a bad writer yourself.
     
  15. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Exactly. This charlatan is claiming to have sold a board for not 10x more than a regularly high-priced board, but in fact 100x more and offering NO PROOF WHATSOEVER. Who's the buyer Roy? Give us anything to substantiate this claim.

    Couldn't agree more. That's why very few people take Roy seriously.

    No kidding bro. This is certainly not about where a less than average surfer sometimes surfs. You are the one who tried to make it about that. It's about someone who's claiming to have changed part of the complexion of the surf industry and its commercial status quo.

    Oh yeah? But you still say I'm lying about it.

    Most of the time I don't get to. Have been on the west coast for 6 days so far now and haven't got to surf once because of workload. So yeah, what a hyperbole I'm painting for all of you guys lol

    I was explicit weeks ago about what I do. And it was very irrelevant to the surf industry or its commercial status quo. Let's see a Shred of proof on this supposed million dollar board sale or else he will continue to be a laughing stock.

    Roy loves stubbornly arguing. He doesn't want to bring back that 9,000 page tread. He wants to create twenty 9k page treads that pervade the first page of the forum since the universe is centered around himself.

    Yeah? You're a gullible one then and I've got a bridge in Florida you would be interested in.

    When someone makes a claim that's as wild as the wildest ragtime claim made by a drunkard in a street gutter and gives zero backup to it when prompted to repeatedly, everything they say from then on is related to that enormous lie since you can't believe anything they say after.


    Bottom line: Bro. I'm not going on Forbes.com and saying I surf poorly and occasionally at cool spots even if that were some claim to bring merit to oneself. Roy contacted some gullible irrelevant faux-news source to get some pub of his myth. Roy is most definitely making by far the most outrageous claim ever in the history of surfing, and perhaps the sale of any sporting good or memorabilia. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR BOARD PEOPLE! There is nothing ever typed on here by anyone that comes close to warranting any such scrutiny as that does.

    Stop taking your crazy pills and realize what time it is.

    This whole tread and any Roy tread = lolololololololololololololololololol
     
  16. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Nailed it... They ride what works for them not because they are paid to. They tell their shapers what they want, their shaper does not tell them what to ride... Of course they work together, but it's up to the surfer what he rides.
    Why do you think CI started making all those silly Dane shapes. Because that's what Dane wanted to ride.
     
  17. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    I don't use a planer.

    hardly, since their business is thriving,


    No I haven't.
     
  18. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
  19. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    +1 and then some
     
  20. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Then use a sharp steak knife.

    I never said you had any impact on their business. Just that you tore them apart verbally. No way in hell a Gnome from NZ could impact crap.

    Yes you have. Maybe not in those words but you said before that the industry blinds the masses.