Move to Guam?

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Speed Bump, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. Speed Bump

    Speed Bump Well-Known Member

    Jun 3, 2014
    Anybody surfed Guam recently?

    I've never been. I've surfed plenny tropical waters though, and it sure seems like it would be good to be smack dab in the middle of the SOPAC.

    Should I move from SoCal to Guam? I've talked to a lot of dudes about the culture, COL, and all the other crap on the island and I know a few guys who surfed it back in the 70's, but they're not really focused on surfing, so it's hard to get good surf-related advice from them.

    So anybody here surfed it? Is it worth it? The internet says maybe. Right now I've got consistent surf 300-ish days a year at the Ventura breaks. I can surf a limited-access great beachbreak at work, so that's where all my reports and photos come from. My work/lunch break goes dormant in the winter, but town breaks pick up, which means frozen-ass DP's before work, or praying the winds let up for evening glass-off. It's a pretty sweet setup, but it could get better. Especially if I never had to set eyes on a wetsuite ever again.

    I'd have access to Gab Gab and other limited-access spots for typhoon swells, and I'd probably live within a mile of Boat Basin, unless I could find a better break. Dunno what else is around there, and won't find out until I head out there to check it.

    Pros: Warm water year-round, closer to places where I vacation and do business in Asia, not to mention Phillipines and Indo for surf trips.
    Cons: Sharp live reef instead of sand or cobblestones. Freaking hot all the time.

    So, who's surfed SoCal and Guam? Which one did you like better?
  2. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    do you mind if i ask what you will be doing to make a living?

  3. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Cons: I've read form military folk the place sucks hard. Nothing to do. People not too friendly. Hot, muggy, mosquito and snake infested. Violent crime. Sounds alot like South Florida (with a few less people and a lot more waves) ---OK, now that I think about it, I'm all IN!
  4. ScobeyviIIe

    ScobeyviIIe Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2015
    lol. Before your 4th sentence, im all like "Sounds like schitty florida"
  5. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    so why not vietnam or the philipines ?
  6. waldo-7

    waldo-7 Well-Known Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    Sounds like you got it pretty good were your at. never leave waves to find waves dude. Then again maybe that's just my perspective from my corner of the east coast wear its been flat for almost a month. Another plus has got to be the cost of living compared to Socal.
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2016
  7. ScobeyviIIe

    ScobeyviIIe Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2015
    you were wrong.
    You wear clothes.
    Where is your head at?
    You're killing me!
  8. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

    Apr 25, 2016
    I only spent a bit of time on Guam. It's a big island from what I remember, so you're not driving from north to south easily...this was a long time ago, but that's what I remember. It seemed bigger than Oahu.

    Not as much surf as Hawaii. Lots of cliffs and non-surfable spots...more than the coastline would suggest.

    It's still expensive, although not nearly as bad as Hawaii.

    From what I saw, I wasn't inclined to move there voluntarily. If I had to choose between Guam and Rhode Island, purely for surf, I'd go with Guam. But for everything else I'd go for RI, eg. schools, cost of living, etc.

    I'll bet the diving is really good.

    If I had to choose, today, between Ventura and Guam, I'd go Ventura.

    You'll definitely want to do your own homework on this. Sorry, I guess I'm not much help actually.
  9. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Living on an island gets tiring; even as a kid, at age 18, I wanted OUT of PR, to go to greener pastures.
    Oh, short term (under 6 months) it is fine for many. But then comes drugs and alcohol, and you will not surf much anymore.
    Been there, done that, and will NEVER do it again. I travel to islands, for 7 days or LESS!! Surf what is left of my brains off, then come home to mama and the kids. Life is good here in the USA compared to Guam, PR, etc.
    just opinion.
  10. Z

    Z Well-Known Member

    Oct 17, 2012

    I was stationed in Guam in the mid 80's and there is good surfing there...Some of the most beautiful clear water you will ever see.
    Like most of the Pacific, it is a Coral Reef break. You have to be careful and get some good reef shoes to wear.

    There is also a ton of snorkeling and diving you might want to check out. Lot's of WWII wrecks.

    There has been a few posts saying how bad the people of Guam are, but I can tell you in the 80's if you took part in their culture they were totally cool with you....It was usually the dumb "Squids and Jarheads" that caused the problems and they did get their A$$e$ kicked.

    Guam is also a big Japanese tourist spot, much like Hawaii is to Americans.

    I would go back to Guam in a heartbeat, but it is a long way from the U.S. and the Island isn't huge.

    Good Luck to you if you go, I think that if you are into the Outdoors, you will like it.
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2016
  11. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Good advice.
  12. stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Seems like a place that "Island Fever" would kick in pretty hard. Especially being so far away from everything. It's one thing to live on an island and take a 2-3 hr plane ride back to home. But Guam is about as far as you can get from the US. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not.
    Seems like something would you want to try for a year or two, then come back.
  13. Speed Bump

    Speed Bump Well-Known Member

    Jun 3, 2014
    Thanks for the replies. Anybody surfed Guam regularly enough to know how often it gets swell, and what kine spots work year-round? How good are the trades and is there anywhere that's offshore and consistent all day every day? I get the impression that spots are sparser than HI, and therefore you can't count on offshores and pumping surf like in you can in HI or Indo.

    The warm water is really inviting, plus all that SCUBA and schnorkling, but surfing the reef is my big complaint about Indo when I go, and yeah Guam coast is all reef or cliff. There's a couple of rivermouths and beachbreaks, but they don't look very good.

    EPAC is my second home, so Guam would only be a 4 hour flight from some of my digs, plus I got peeps in Japan and the Fillups. But a $$$ 4 hour flight is not a drive up to Big Sur or down to Sandy Eggo.

    I think it's pretty clear that I'd be better off staying in CA for now. Maybe I'll look into relocating to HI instead.
  14. mushdoc

    mushdoc Well-Known Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    I keep trying to convince my wife that we should sell the biz and move to Costa Rica. Lots of ways to make a living there and not too long a flight to visit the U.S. on a fairly frequent basis. I love the people, climate,and of course lots of breaks to choose from Just my own little fantasy/dream.
  15. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    I'm guessing that the ol' Bumpster is somehow tied to the military, and surfs Magoo on the reg.
  16. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Went there is March. Based on what I experienced, I suggest you travel some more and experience other places because you will then see CR for the puke hole it is. And the waves are BRRRRRPPPP next to other places.
    just opinion, based on having traveled many other locations, etc
  17. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

    May 21, 2006
    If you don't like surfing reefs then Guam is not for you. It is mostly long paddles out to reefs (or grab yourself a little trolling motor canoe). PNG is just to the south, lots of good surf there as well (again, lots of reef). The experience gained from a 2-yr assignment would probably make for good career progression depending upon what side of the program you work.
  18. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2011

    Barry, what other places? I've done Rica twice and I sorta feel the same way about it haha.. looking to broaden my horizons. As for Guam.. no idea!
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Well, if waves are to be the goal, there are too many to mention, but I can tell you Baja California has a lot of great breaks, very large waves, and nice water temps. Also, crowds were not too bad when I went (20 years ago). Also, PR to me is way better than CR. PR has great reef breaks, better beaches than CR (opinion only), no fvcking pesky crocks, etc. Barbados also. Too many to mention really. Of course, there is always Belmar......