new surfer. help a brotha out

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by jewnersey, May 18, 2011.

  1. jewnersey

    jewnersey New Member

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    May 18, 2011
    so, i've lived in Toms river, nj my whole life and only now am picking up a surfboard...i know i know,, WTF happened. better late than never is what i say.

    i received a board for graduation, 6'7" Kechele, and have gone out a few times, but i suck. i know i can go the easy route and get on a big ol funboard, but im trying to do this the hard way goddamnit. so for starters:

    pointers? i think my main issue is that i try to pop up way after the wave has me.

    booties? i have a 3/2 full suit that im gonna start rippin in this week, but should i get some booties (and do you have some you want to sell me)

    thats it for now. get wet
     
  2. mongoloid

    mongoloid Well-Known Member

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    Nov 5, 2010
    first of all, thanks for not asking where to paddle out, or if the waves will be good.

    getting a fun board will mellow out the learning curve big time. your first goal is to be able to get up on your board and ride the open face of the wave. the timing and board skills necessary are wayyyy harder with a short board rather than a nice thick, wide nose fun board. also, you need to build up paddling strength to enter the wave early with a shorty - fun boards paddle easier and enter the wave sooner.

    i'd say ride a fun board for a couple weeks or months till you get the hang of dropping in and riding down the line, and maybe even doing some mellow turns. then switch to the short board and learn how to pump down the line - a whole different beast.
     

  3. idsmashh

    idsmashh Well-Known Member

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    Aug 2, 2010
    well, i started on a shortboard about a year ago, and i feel like i would definitly be a much better surfer if i would have listened to others advice and gotten a longboard. like he said above me. the timing and effort is much more critical on a shortboard. there are just way too many things to sqrew up to even tell what your doing wrong. get a longboard bro. you need to master the basic motions first. then once you have that down you can go with a more advanced board. I started last June on a 6'2 shortboard... i have just recently been developing a bottom turn within the last couple of monthes. GO BUY A LONGBOARD!! You can always keep the shortboard you have now and use it when you start to progress
     
  4. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

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    Oct 3, 2008
    for sure. go borrow or buy an old longboard. doesn't have to be anything fancy. something around nine feet. it is much easier to paddle and more stable to ride. even when you progress to the shortboard, keep the longboard for small mushy days.

    try to go out on smaller, less steep days while learning, and for pete's sake stay away from crowds. learning the ropes can be challenging enough without having to listen to a bunch of crap from the local shreddas.

    paddling is the most important part of surfing. paddle a lot. even if it is flat, go out and paddle. good luck and remember to have fun!
     
  5. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    Dont worry about riding an actual wave at first... start just trying to catch waves in the whitewater so you figure out how to balance yourself on a board. This shouldn't take too long to get the hang of. After that it comes down to timing, paddling, positioning, and popping up.

    That is kind of a small board to learn on... but you'll probably like it down the road. Can you get hold of a funboard or longboard for a couple sessions? Don't need to ditch what you have, but it might help just to take out something bigger a few times while you get the hang of it.
     
  6. jrobe057

    jrobe057 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 8, 2008
    The best thing you can do is watch people surf. Watch surfing on youtube and surf videos and people at your beach. Surfing is hard to teach because it happens so quickly and, many times, you dont have time to think about what to do. You'll basically know what feels right when you do it and then develop a technique. I would get a longboard though to learn on and for small days, don't get a funboard because you'll have no use for it when you learn because you'll wanna pull shortboard manuevers and won't be able to.
    p.s. dont let anyone discourage you from this site.
     
  7. SearchForShacks

    SearchForShacks Well-Known Member

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    Jan 1, 2009
    Surfing sucks.. dont try it
     
  8. whosthat

    whosthat Well-Known Member

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    Apr 8, 2011
    If and when you get a big board, think safety first. You're gonna get caught in the impact zone no doubt. Keep distance from others in case you have to bail. And, if your under, make sure you cover your head with one arm while the other arm emerges first in case your board is wailing. An 8ft funshape is a good all around size to help develope your skill.
     
  9. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Go out with friends that are really good. Not just okay...real good. Learn from their work ethic, dont talk, stay out of the way and go out all the time. And also, put that shortboard away for at least 2 years... get a funboard dude.
     
  10. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    I know you don't want to hear this but like everyone is saying a longer board wil help you in the long run. I grew up surfing shortboards only. I struggled for a long time and got better in tiny increments. I remember watching some other guys my age and was wondering how they were getting into waves so early (a big plus) and ripping. I only know now that although they were riding shortboards they were long for their size. I continued to ride short boards until my mid to late 20's and did improve but not by much. When I put on some weight I figured I had hit the wall and resigned myself to riding a longboard fo the rest of my life. Well it was the best thing I every did for my surfing, in short it taught me to really surf instead of struggling against the equipment and the waves. It forced me to be very deliberate in how the boards turn, to slow down and really look at what the wave was doing and a whole bunch of other things that I would never have learned with the shortboard. When I started to loose the weight I had put on I slowly went back to shortboards but never forgot what I learned on the log. If I were you I would buy or borrow a longboard and paddle out every chance I got. You can ride a 9" + board somewhere almost everyday and you will learn tons. Doesn't mean you can't grab the shortboard here and there to give it a shot.
     
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  11. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Learning to surf is one thing, LEARN THE OCEAN!!! And whenever you get outta line, mother nature will slap your a$$ back in line, don't worry! I learned on a short board, but I agree with the rest of the guys, a long board will help a lot! Don't surf near the big groups of guys, it will pi$$ people off! Go down the beach a little just out of the crowd. If you go by yourself, don't hide your keys under your car bumper. Most wetsuits have a small pocket on the inside. Oh, and don't take offense to guys bustin your balls on here! Good luck
     
  12. jewnersey

    jewnersey New Member

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    May 18, 2011
    thanks for all the input peeps.

    I've got access to an 8 footer, its a little longer but not sure the inches. its not a fatty fun board but I'm sure it will suffice. ill go get my **** together on that as per the recommendations of ya'll then start shredding on my board as I get comfortable.

    back to the booties.. recs for a new guy? 3mm round toe excels for 35, or should I splurge and grab something better?
     
  13. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    now your pushing it rookie
     
  14. staystoked

    staystoked Well-Known Member

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    Dec 27, 2009
    I got booties for u bro

    I ordered the size to small

    I got excel 5 mill split toe brand new in box

    60$ in a store ... yours for 40$

    I'm in long branch nj ..LMK
     
  15. mongoloid

    mongoloid Well-Known Member

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    Nov 5, 2010
    make sure that board isn't a gun meant for big waves. a gun wont help you with what you need out of the board for learning.

    you dont really need heavy duty 3 mil boots. i would start to worry about quality if youre wearing 5 or 7 mil boots in december-march.

    the thing with boots is that pretty much all of them only last a season or two, no matter what. after that they are bound to get holes in the stitching or jsut take water some how.
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Starting on a longer board will help TO A POINT. If your intent is to surf shortboards as you progress, habits you learn on a log will hurt you if you stay on one for too long. The biggest thing is learning how to pump the wave which you will need riding a shortboard in our surf.
     
  17. yetiatthejetty

    yetiatthejetty Well-Known Member

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    Nov 30, 2010
    You may also want to just practice catching a wave or two on the board without trying to pop up. Feel the board with your whole body. How does it react to the wave, where is the center of gravity. Don't be afraid to ride it like a body board a few times. You need to feel the board falling away from your body.
     
  18. jdreynolds44

    jdreynolds44 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 30, 2010
    hey im phil, im using my brothers account bc i wanted to reply to this thread. but anyway. I am just starting to and i bought a 7'6" nsp. i cant get up :( i have been out about a dozen times now and cant ride except on my stomach. How do i get up? everytime i stand up the board topples over and my bro cant help me be he is away at college. What should i do?
     
  19. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    I agree with all of the above. But, if you were completely dead set on not riding a huge board, you could go the big man's fish route and get a 6'10''-7'3'' fish that is wide and thick with a lot more stablility than a short board. It would probably turn a bit better than a fun board too. There's some cheap ones out there...boneyard surfboards (connected with mahady surfboards) has some neat stuff. You could always get a local shaper to make you a solid beginners board for around $500-600 too.
     
  20. Double Over-toe

    Double Over-toe Well-Known Member

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    Feb 4, 2009
    I can say that from personal experience, you need to get a bigger board. Say a bigger funboard board to start up on, or even a log. When i was learning, my friend kept telling me that i was good to learn on a shortboard, and that only people who ride shortboards get the waves. But he basically screwed me over with that little lesson. I suffered many a day with that dreadful walk up the beach on a packed summer day knowing that everyone is looking at me saying " what a kook......." Then i went out and got a 7'0 Funfish from WRV (7'0x23.5x2.75) and started to actually learn how it felt to ride a wave. It takes time to gain that knowledge of how the wave forms/breaks, where the peak is, how far inside or outside the wave is going to peel.

    Now i ride a 6'3 Valeric, and a 5'10 Pride and love them to death. I haven't had that horrific walk of shame back up the beach in a long time. Its amazing how much an extra foot on a board will help you.

    Take you time and like everyone else said......Watch watch watch. I can't tell you how many times i've watched loose change, September Sessions, and especially All The Hype, since it's primarily an east coast wave movie.
    Grab an indo board, and a stak of surf movies.