New Weather and Surf Forecasting Forum

Discussion in 'Weather and Surf Forecasting' started by SI_Admin, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    So, all discussions regarding Weather and Surf Forecasting, and related phenomenon can be posted in this new forum.

    The idea in creating some new forums, is to have the info much more organized, so it can be searched and used for others down the line when they are looking for answers to similar questions.
  2. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Speaking of weather, if we get 5" of snow this weekend im gonna poo on every scientist that believes in global warming. (And yes I understand that the cold does not equate to debunking the theory, but cmon!)

  3. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    global warming means "global", not one day in the Northeast...
  4. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Global warming reminds me of how the Mayan kings and rulers would keep the lowly common people in the dark about how the sun could disappear if they didnt sacrifice people to appease the gods, knowing full well how nature really worked. Its all about control and power....dont believe the hype (just my opinion).
  5. HaoleNJ

    HaoleNJ Well-Known Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Many scientists studying the impacts of pollution on the environment would label this phenomenon as Global Climate Change, opposed to global warming which misleads people to think that pollution is causing only a warming effect on our environment.
  6. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Many, meaning a very small minority.

    Something along the line of 98% of climate scientists believe in human induced climate change.
  7. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    So this forum is for discussions forecasting climate change? Did I not read the tag line correctly?
  8. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    I just believe that we live on this enormous planet in the gigantic mind boggling universe and we humans love the idea that we have some much influence on it...I just dont buy it. Our egos get in the way of logic and reality.
  9. mOtion732

    mOtion732 Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    how about this swell being blown from 12 ft to 2ft in 12 hours? i'm think/hope we can find some fun ones until early afternoon on sunday...
  10. SI_Admin

    SI_Admin Guest

    Or, humans think they own and are in control of this quasi sphere that we live on and can do whatever they want without re-precautions from nature.
  11. Hurricane

    Hurricane New Member

    Aug 30, 2010
    global warming could be my growth spurt!
  12. pvjumper05

    pvjumper05 Well-Known Member

    Jun 15, 2008
  13. joenottoast

    joenottoast Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2011
    re-precautions ... ya know, like when someone does something and they get warned as a result. its a word.
  14. joenottoast

    joenottoast Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2011
  15. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    Granted, the pollution from humans has affected the Earth, but the idea that we are the main cause behind the polar ice caps melting is ridiculous. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the sun gets closer to the Earth every year.
  16. HaoleNJ

    HaoleNJ Well-Known Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    the point I was trying to make, admin, was that there is a difference between global warming and climate change.

    This is independent of whether or not you believe something is happening, or not.
  17. ewwoodsurf

    ewwoodsurf Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2007
    Guys, c'mon, the question of whether or not industrial civilization has warmed the climate is pretty much settled. It has, and continues to do so.
  18. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

    Jun 7, 2010
    Maybe I the scotch, but I found this hilarious!
  19. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Of course there is... I studied Climatology in grad school.

    Both human induced climate change and natural climate variability occur at the same time. The 6+ billion year old earth has gone through many minor and major climate changes throughout its lifespan.

    Using the wonderful world of science and statistics, it is quite easy to analyze both observational and experimental modeled data to separate the two influences.

    The ecosystem is fragile. To give you a non-CO2 induced micro-scale example that I think most can relate to. Have you ever heard of the urban heat island, where cities are warmer then the nearby rural areas? The TV weather mean will always point out differences in temperature in the cities and around the cities. Taking out fields and trees, and putting in paved roads and skyscrapers have a huge influence on the local environment and climate. So much of the ecosystem gets changed by these behaviors. Solar radiation is absorbed/reflected differently, less/more CO2/O2 is taken in/given out, water runs off instead of being absorbed by the ground. I'm not saying cities are bad, my point is more of offering a easy to ignore influence that we humans have on our environment.
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2011
  20. havanasand

    havanasand Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    Where does it say 98% believe in HICC?

    Yeah, that's why one of the anti-global warming spokesman fronting a carbon based tax has a house 50ft from the beach in Florida (supposedly that's going to be underwater in 30 yrs due to climate change).

    Dis-information is everywhere and many Global Warming studies and think tanks are funded by Cap and Trade organizations that will be profiting from imposing taxes on all of us. When all is said and done, it's all about the $$$.

    I don't need some neck-bearded socialist college professor telling me what kind of car to drive because he's listening to a bunch of rich politicians telling him the sky is falling.