Newbie to this forum...just want to say HEY!

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by toofun, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. toofun

    toofun Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2015
    OK so I am gonna apologize in advance for this thread as it may be a bit long winded.... Starting surfing last year in New England at the young old age of 46 (lol) My son who is 15 picked it up and was hooked right from the start. He has progressed nicely as for me well not so much in the beginning. I have always been very competitive and driven and love being in the water BUT I am 6 ft 230 with about 20lb of "extra" weight on me. Started out on foamies which worked ok as well as the water logged rentals, white wash riding, trying to get up and stand before I hit the sand. Started in July of 2014 and took my lumps on learning going out a total of 24 times before calling it quits for the season in NOV... BTW Stood up and rode a wave about 4 times out of all of those times but would just keep coming back for more!! Winter came and I spent it skiing as I always do watching youtube help videos, making an indo board from and a goof board both from the blueprints they have for them registered online with the us patent website(yea amazed at that but i guess as long as your not selling it your covered).... worked on pop ups on a pillow and rolled towels with my sons actual surf board and even got myself a big guy board (all in at this point)
    So after waiting out the winter season I got back out there this spring in march and although my popups were better, I STILL was wiping out, washing out, and getting pummelled. BUT now in mid July I have been finally getting to my feet quickly, and riding waves on the face and consistently getting my front side and heel side turns!

    I bought a board by a guy out in Solena beach cali by the name of Joe Blair who makes big guy surfboards. Mine is the Big Guy Quad and was made as a 7 10 x 25 x 3 3/4 It is a single to double concave bottom and he moves the quad fins up about 3 inches. It rides great, paddles easy and turns decent. I can catch 1-2 ft as well as 4-5 ft(not often in ne but some storms in the fall) My only gripe is that I WISH it was not so egg shaped and also a litte more responsive.

    Im thinking of going to a different board or at least adding to my quiver but am stuck on what to get? Options are the 7'4" Monsta Chief in 23 x3 1/4 or a Chronic Bully? Or maybe even the VEC BEEFCAKE or something he would shape for me. Anyways, anyone have any suggestions? what do you think?

    Thanks in advance!!
  2. actionpants

    actionpants Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    Welcome, I'll chime in and ask if you have a daughter because i know most of the people here will want to know.

    As for the board choices focus on the dims not the model type as they tend to just come up with trendy names to better market the boards - go shorter and get some volume up in therr to help your paddling - at 5'11 and around 170lb my standard short board is a 5'9 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/2- my small wave board is a 5'7 x 21 x 3 quad with a thinned out tail for some response.

    I have a buddy whom is 6'1 @ 220lb who rocks a 6'8 thats beefy not sure of the exact dimensions - so dont be too scared to go shorter especially if you have something that is working on those smaller days with the egg

    Find a demo day and try someboards out if you can that way you know what your getting into.

  3. garbanzobean

    garbanzobean Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2010
    No one has mentioned a 9' + log to you yet? It will make small days fun and rideable for a middle aged big dude just learning. You can have that big/thick/wide mid size but a log will get you farther and better faster being a newbie silverback.
  4. frost

    frost Well-Known Member

    Jul 31, 2014
    Welcome I'm somewhat a legend... be prepared the onslaught begins... View attachment 16126 u need that board I'll make u a sweet deal
  5. toofun

    toofun Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2015
    Hey thanks for all the input so far I really appreciate it. Yup I have had people suggest a 9 ft long board but to be honest, I feel like Im paddling a battleship and also getting out back can be a challenge for me too. I also really want to get to the point of carving quick turns and although I may not be there yet, I want to work towards it. I ski and snowboard and have skied since I was 5. I can get sideways on my skis when I cut really hard. Absolute rush to skim the side of my body on a steep side slope with the centrifical force pumping away. I know surfing is different but I hope to get that snappy turn style someday. Anyways, would love to do demo days but noone around New England does them. Not that I know of anyways hence the guess work when it comes to boards...

    Frost what makes you a legend if you dont mind me asking? Also although i appreciate the offer I live in Mass. Keep em coming guys and gals. I really appreciate it.

  6. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    ride everything you can....... log, fish, fatfish, bodyboard, foamies, shortboard, etc

    it will only help you
  7. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Toofun, welcome! Great introduction! This site can be fun, annoying, funny and sometimes just pi$$ you off, don't let it get to ya, it is what it is. If you ask for advice, just be prepared for 4 good answers and 8 sarcastic or $hity answers, it is what it is. LOL. Frost took some heat because he went out and bought 25 surfboards of all shapes and sizes before he learned to surf. Ha ha ha, he is a good guy! Anyway, welcome!
  8. toofun

    toofun Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2015
    HA HA HA Thanks Zeroevol. Glad to finally find a site. Everyone has opinions as Im sure I will find out but I have a very thick skin. My wife calls me the Silverback Gorilla cause of my bigger size arse, I say its because of my big arms and chiseled jaw(lol) My kids call me "ORCA" when they see me surf because I look like a whale when surfing.... I say its because all of the other animals of the sea fear me including SHARKS!! he he, so you see gotta find the positive spin on things! Surfing to me is an obsession. I was hooked the first time I caught my first GOOD wave and although I am into it only a year, I know I will be doing it for as long as my body can handle it. I only wish I started it 35 years ago!!

    Oh and as far as Frost goes? If I had the money and the room I would buy all kinds of surfboards and display them in a room. I love the way they look, the way they smell and the way they feel. I guess you could say I have a surfboard fetish!!(insert the smartass comments here) but for the moment I only have one.. I also have found that surfing to me is like eating Chinese food... an hour later I feel like doing it again!

  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Lots of good advice so far, I agree with the LB suggestion. It will get you where you want to be faster believe it or not. Then that egg will perform better than it is now, because you will know what you are doing. Once you are throwing spray with your turns then go get the big guy HP shortboard or Fish Hybrid and your quiver will be complete for 99% of our conditions on the East coast.
  10. sharknado

    sharknado Active Member

    Jul 16, 2013
    I learned in my late 40's too, so here's my take. You've got your 1st board, it sounds huge (really wide and thick) which btw is probably the cause of the non responsive part. You'll want to work those dims down a little to more convention sizes, it will make a big difference. Next board, you've got 2 ways to go.
    Longer is easy, get a 9ft+ all purpose longboard (Walden) 22-23 inches wide 3-3 1/4 thick. Learn about glide. It'll turn and handle steep stuff too. Have a blast when the waves don;t stand up.
    To go shorter you might want to work incrementally. Don't hate on eggs. At your age and size you're going to have to deal with high volume shorter boards and that will mean 21-22 in. wide 2 3/4 - 3 in thick. I'd go 7ft performance egg, then whatever, there's a lot of short stubby high volume boards on the market that young skinny guys ride at 5'5" but you'll love at 6' or 6'3". Good Luck.
  11. bagus

    bagus Well-Known Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    kinda like eating Chinese food hahahah ya cream of sumyunggirl soup is similar to getting blown out of a barrel with the spit I guess
  12. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Surfing is like the mafia. Once your in theres no getting out

    -Kelly Slater

    You're in bud.
  13. toofun

    toofun Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2015
    Sharknado thanks for the advise. I will consider it. I do know this for sure, thickness has to be at least 3" for me. Ive tried a couple of boards long and short that were less than that and Ive sunk them. I know thickness is not the only factor but seems to me to be an important one for my size....
  14. mrcoop

    mrcoop Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2010
    Since you are progressing, sounds like its time to go shorter and less volume. That board has a ton of volume, perfect for a beginner but it sounds like time for a change... Go as short as you can with about 5% less volume or maybe even 10%. The shortness will give you more responsive board, but will feel less stable...but it's time to progress, so drop that volume...if your happy with the current board, have it similar shaped but just shorten all dimensions until your satisfied with the volume.

    Btw, don't trade that board in or sell it just yet until you progress...use it during colder months. With a less volume board and as a beginner, it will be a ***** to use when using thick suits and mits...its Pain to paddle and catch waves and feel stable.

    Sounds like you caught the stoke...have fun!
  15. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Man, sounds as if Porky Pig just bought a board.......hahahahha
    Sorry, could not resist.
    Floatation is your friend when starting this addiction....
  16. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    o barry

    Welcomme new guy. It's like the Jesus folks say, you're saved now.

    Like metard said, ride everything.
  17. toofun

    toofun Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2015
    Yea I try and ride anything people will let me. A few weeks ago I ran into a guy in the water that was staring at my board, we got to talking about it and I let him have a go on it. He was riding a 9 ft AIPA and really wanted to go to a shorter board but was big like me. He fell in love with my board and is now trying to sell off other boards he owns so he can get one. The AIPA paddled unbelievably easy but like I said I am looking for a more aggressive board. Not planning on selling this board UNTIL I am 100% happy with the replacement. May even keep it. Also rode a fun shaped 8 ft RUSSELL board that was shaped before the guy passed away. Older board but was AWESOME to ride, so easy to paddle, get up on and even move a bit, but my buddy bought 5 of them before he left cali and moved here and he is NOT SELLING IT for any amount of money!!(bastard!!lol).

    Porky Pig I am not, just a silverback with a little bit of extra belly fat to SURF off... well thea thea thea thats all folks!!!
  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Welcome to the FFM - "The Flip Flop Mafia".

    If you shred on land, you will soon shred on water. Try a fun/fish hybrid about 6'10" to 7' long, 22" wide, 3" thick. Semi rounded nose and a wide tail - maybe a swallow. Concave to double concave out the back with some v in the tail from the fins back. Look at Quiet Flight's website in Cocoa Beach - you will see what shape I am referring to.

    Or a 12' NZ wooden surf canoe. Either way, you will get lots of waves.
  19. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    +1 I have a 6'10" WRV FunFish that fits this description, except it's not 3" thick, it's a big guy short board though, probably would do the trick, but I suggest you get something more durable because it's pretty delicate, so it wouldn't last long under your big heavy feet.
  20. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Toofun, if you need any info on a wetsuit, please use the correct spelling, "wetsuite". Otherwise you will get nothing.