NJ Lifeguards

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  1. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

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    May 10, 2014
    I agree 100% I lifeguarded in Belmar and Sea Girt for 10 years. Looking back, I cant believe the BS that lifeguards have to enforce.
     
  2. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

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    May 10, 2014
    You should have seen some of the sorry SOB's that they let guard the beach. could barely swim themselves, let alone save someone else.
     

  3. foamieswithmyhomies

    foamieswithmyhomies Well-Known Member

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    Sep 18, 2014
    Most guards get it, but nothing like seeing a 17 year old guard ride his leash-less rescue board like a log right into a school of kids in the whitewater, which I got to witness firsthand last week. Granted, the kids shouldn't even be there in the first place, but doing stuff like that makes you wonder where some of these dudes are coming from. Don't get me started on them being booze nazis.
     
  4. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Exactly. They only touch the ocean in the summer months. Sometimes just a warm body in a chair to make bennys feel safe.
     
  5. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Exactly. They can swim in a pool but not much experience in the ocean besides taking a little training. I also noticed a lot of them are fat (both boys and girls). How can they save anybody?
     
  6. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Fat floats.....
     
  7. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    I got caught in a rip when I was about 10 along with about 5 other people and might not be here today if not for a lifegaurd.

    The real issue with lifegaurds and surfers here in NJ comes from their bosses at the city level. Every town is different. Surfers should be free to surf so long as they aren't presenting a risk to bathers. There is nothing stupider than keeping surfers out of the water when the waves are big and they aren't letting bathers past knee deep anyway or on days when the weather sucks or the water is freezing and the water is empty of swimmers. My son is surfing in Atlantic City this morning instead of our home town because the guards there have a more reasonable approach to surfers.
     
  8. swabby

    swabby Active Member

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    Sep 19, 2008
    This was years ago in Lavallette. The guards stopped my son and I from making a big sand castle. They said the week before, some kid was digging a big hole and making a castle that collapsed on him. He had a hard time breathing and the guards had to dig him out. Parents were taking legal action against the guards/township for not responding sooner. Sometimes the people on the beach drive how the guards have to act.
     
  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    as someone who uses the ocean year round, i have major issues with some douche who barely knows anything about waves and current dictating when and where i can surf. Ive saved more people than most guards anyway. In fact a few years ago i saved a girl caught in a heavy rip when the guard refused to go in.
     
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  10. rhode island sale

    rhode island sale Well-Known Member

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    Nov 8, 2014
    Thousands of lives including children are absolutely saved by lifeguards every single year. Pay attention in September to the number of drownings even with a fraction of the people in the water versus the summer. Lifeguards can be a pain to surfers, but you have to understand that surfboards are dangerous and present a risk to people in the water so that's why they flag off certain areas. Simple to avoid, just go in the morning or after 5 if want the whole beach to surf without being compacted into an area and they're only there for 2 1/2 months anyway during the flattest time of the year.

    NJ is the ultimate nanny state. They actually wanted to pass a state-wide law making it illegal to enter the water when no lifeguard is present.

    http://nj1015.com/no-lifeguard-no-beach-asbury-beach-chief-wants-a-state-law-poll/

    This would probably also affect boogie boarders as well and maybe even surfers. They've arrested surfers for trying to surf at belmar during a hurricane swell. I think that's why the animosity exists between surfers and lifeguards. It's an east coast thing. West coast(hawaii, california) lifeguards are nothing like this.

    The towns want to restrict parking/limit beach access/50 million rules, but at the same time they want all those tourist $$$$ Give us your money and LEAVE! The amount of rules at some beaches in the mid atlantic are insane. They have dress codes at some boardwalks in nj. The amount of cops/ticket machines roaming around is insane. Rockaway tried to ban boogie boarding last year and I read in their rules that they don't allow swim fins. Swim fins are banned? Is this actually enforced? What a joke. Rockaway/jenks also ban anyone entering the water when lifeguards are off duty. Is this actually enforced? https://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_things_to_do/facilities/images/pdf/RockawayBeachRules.pdf

    It sounds like Nazi beach patrol down there. It's not as bad up here. They should just concentrate on saving lives, not all this other crap. They're also too strict with the red flag/knee deep any time there's a waist to chest high swell. People should be able to swim in that. It's not an overhead hurricane swell where obviously you should restrict swimmers. Hire more lifeguards. They clearly bring in enough money. I used to go down there for vacation in the summer. SO much traffic, it would cost like 30 bucks in tolls to get there, beach tags for EVERY beach and you can't buy a pass for a few of them. They need to ease up
     
  11. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Comparing the number of drownings after Labor Day to July/August is moronic. That's when the ocean actually comes alive.
     
  12. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    common sense is free
     
  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    It depends on a lot of things, but in particular, what beaches you're talking about. For Pete's sake... if they're gonna require guards at pools, they'd better require them in the ocean. But I digress...

    If guards aren't fit and properly trained, they're more dangerous to swimmers than not, because they lull the shoobies into a false sense of security. People don't think they have to watch their kids if they let them swim at guarded beaches. And that could mean trouble.

    But physically fit, properly trained guards save lives every year. No doubt. My kid pulled to children out of a rip a few weeks ago, and absolutely saved their lives. No doubt. So for the simple fact that we charge to get onto beaches, we're morally and ethically compelled to protect people as best we can.
     
  14. rhode island sale

    rhode island sale Well-Known Member

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    Nov 8, 2014
    Many people are drowning in small swells. Ocean coming alive means 7 days out of the month with waves, maybe 4 days with solid dangerous swell. It's flat to small most of the time. I've seen so many people pulled out of the water by lifeguards I've lost count.
     
  15. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Social Darwinism would fix that pretty fast
     
  16. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 30, 2008
    Years ago I thought a surfer was your best chance of assistance in the water. Now, at least in ocmd, the surfers need the lifeguards. Bunch of goons in our beloved sport. The art of learning the ocean and her ways is gone. Every ahole from here to pennsyltucky takes one surf lesson, buys a walden, then jumps in without a clue as to water safety or surfing rules in general.
     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008

    Because there are no more regulators.
     
  18. PA_KOOK

    PA_KOOK Well-Known Member

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    Apr 4, 2016
    Good on you Pump. That guard is a disgrace and should be publicly shamed
     
  19. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Well said but I see many guards that seem unfit these days. Also, add to the fact that they stop surfers from entering large surf even when swimmers aren't allowed. I know the guards are following town laws and maybe the town needs to change some rules. Maybe we don't charge for the beach, get rid of lifeguards and it's swim at your own risk. Our beaches would be nice and empty for locals.
     
  20. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    The only life guards I like are females with big tits.
    The rest are useless.....