NJ Passes Medical Marijuana

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by rgnsup, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    cmon. I'm all for legalization but there is NO possible way that inhaling a burnt substance doesn't have some sort of harmful effect. If you believe it doesn't then you must be smoking something.;)
     
  2. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Hahaha... I see what you did there.

    What about ingesting it via edibles or vaporizer? There is nothing being burnt...

    And marijuana is nothing new... if it was harmful, it would have shown in studies from the many years it has been used.
     

  3. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    Pass the bong and we'll all get along :p < Stoned face
     
  4. cjswee

    cjswee Well-Known Member

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    Aug 5, 2008
    I totally agree w/ not getting crazy on the subject...

    I just don't think alot of people are considering the downsides of long term use for a short time buzz....I think all foreign chemicals to normal diets are unhealthy including smoke from any plant. If you've ever had a relative wither away to bones from lung cancer like I have you'd know what i'm talking about. It's a horrible way to die and the last words they say is they never should have smoked.
     
  5. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    All seriousness, are you blind to the fact or neglecting the fact that, so far, to this date, there is NO PROVEN downsides of long term use of marijuana? Like someone else posted earlier, it's been around for thousands of years.

    Yes, all foreign chemicals to normal diets are unhealthy... why it blows peoples minds that marijuana is illegal but foreign chemicals are legal.

    And yes, my grandmom passed from cancer when she was, I think 62 (very young in my opinion) and guess what? That was from cigarettes!!!! Smoking marijuana is not the same nor on the same level as smoking cigarettes!! And again, you don't even have to smoke marijuana, there are many ways to take.
     
  6. Don Ride

    Don Ride Well-Known Member

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    Apr 2, 2009
    Tylenol is very dangerous, OD on it and you will need a new liver. How many young people smoke cigarettes these days? Anyhow, if you surf, your chances of dieing from sun cancer far out weigh lung cancer from pot. I realize that many of you squirts think you are going to live forever, but I bet you one day die from something. (hey this is very dark what I wrote, sorry usually I am not a negative/dark person). :confused:

    Anyhow, I'm all about stress relief. Truth is many people die each year from over the counter drugs, booze, and tobacco. I am not saying this is OK, but it is a fact. Sorry to say that as adults you will make decessions concerning you and loved ones health on many levels. What's the use taking drugs for cholesterol if it is going to trash your liver, and you live like a week longer? All I saying is that we all make health decessions every day, "do you want fries with that" and wasting time, money, and resources trying to stop people from smoking pot is insane. :cool:
     
  7. cjswee

    cjswee Well-Known Member

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    Aug 5, 2008
    You're right...

    I'm completely full of BS.
    Light one up man, have fun. Then get in a car and drive around town too.

    I've heard joint hold 10x's the amount of smoke as a fiberglass filtered cigarette...so you do the math when people start smoking as frequently as a normal smoker does...say a pack a day...

    Any carcinogen in the lungs will have adverse effect no matter what High Times says...

    I'm not here to convince anyone that has it in their mind there are no ill effects.
     
  8. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Stop getting all butt hurt! And I do drive and drive completely fine, if not more cautious!! Do I recommend or say driving on it is okay? No. How many stories or people do you know who have had a car accident or died because of just marijuana?! I've heard of none, but have heard and had close friends die because of alcohol and driving!

    And you say you've heard a joint holds 10x the amount of smoke... that is just what you have heard... is it true? It might be, it might not be. But realize what is also in the smoke... smoke isn't smoke no matter what it is coming from. A joint - you burn the paper and an all natural plant. Cigarette - you burn the CHEMICALS and whatever the fug else is in there.. just sayin.

    Again, why are you still neglecting the other ways of 'getting high'? You keep talking about smoking...

    And you say any carcinogen in the lungs will have adverse effects... are these bad effects? Because it's not only high times that says it...
     
  9. cjswee

    cjswee Well-Known Member

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    Aug 5, 2008
    .....

    Not subscribed to this thread anymore....Not here to debate until I die....
     
  10. ughVeeBee

    ughVeeBee Well-Known Member

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    Apr 23, 2009
    Bingo. If MJ were totally legal and the general public were allowed to see thru the lies they'd have no reason to buy the pharmaceutical industry's poison. Plain and simple. And the only reason they don't adopt a marijuana-based medicinal model and mass-produce it is because it just grows in the dirt and it's too easy for anyone to do it themselves. My brother's father-in-law works for Bayer, he says that marijuana awareness is a huge threat to them.

    My aunt, who actually recently passed on, had several forms of terminal cancer. She used all of the prescribed pain relief from her doctors and none of them really helped the pain and nausea. She went to Cabo (her husband was quite lucky financially) and spent a good part of the remainder of her life smoking bud, and this was the only relief she had during this horrible part of her life.
     
  11. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Hahah, that's cool. Wasn't intended to be a debate or get out of hand.


    Cheers!
     
  12. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    And it all goes back to the government are ****ing scumbags! It's about money and not health.

    They say there are cures for cancer and aids out there but won't let them out because of the threat to all the pharmaceutical companies and harmful drugs they give. Just heard that, no facts to actually back that up.
     
  13. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    At least reefer isn't packed full of chemicals that humans put into them - not the stuff that I grow/buy. Humanity is the poison. It's not the reefer - stop hating on God's given plant.
    At one point when it does become legal (because I believe we're not too far away from that) there's gonna have to be quality control checking because you know some asshole will start putting some junk into their weed to alter it.
     
  14. mofosurfer.com

    mofosurfer.com Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2009
    BTW people, if you are against legalizing it, take a look at who your fellow supporters are. Religious zealots and those that have bought the “War on Drugs” thing that Nixon started 50+ years ago.
    Do you know which lobbyists are keeping bud illegal? The alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry. Did you know that it was Hearst, who made his wealth in the paper industry, who popularized the term “marijuana” and he did it to help demonize the plant that produces hemp. You see, hemp was a major threat to the paper industry. I lasts longer, it prints and reads better, and recycles easier. It was a MAJOR threat to Hearst. So, he had deep pockets. I mean, he was a multi millionaire when that was still a rarity. He also had major connections. He was a major force behind the demonization of marijuana not out of fear of people smoking it, he just knew that it would force the illegalization of it. Once it was demonized it became illegal to grow, including the non-inhalable type plants known as hemp. The same plant that most of our countries forefathers grew on their farms, the same plant that was promoted during World War I (there were “Grow Hemp for Victory” posters that proclaimed this, Google it if you don’t believe me).
    Hearst won. He helped create the fear of black jazz players and Mexican immigrants all smoke marijuana and how when they got high they would all rape your white wives and children. He created a hysteria that has lasted to this day, not only that, but he used his OWN NEWSPAPER to help flame the hysteria. In fact, that's where the term "Yellow Journalism" comes from. His competition was beat down and made illegal to grow. So his deep pockets affected our personal freedoms. Good job Hearst. I think he made his money and can leave now. Time to make things right again. Say no to the alcohol industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the cotton industry, and the paper industry and stand up for yourself. Don’t be lazy, do some research on your own, don’t believe the rhetoric that these companies produce about the legalization of their biggest competitor. They are paying big, big dollars to lobbyists in Washington to keep things the way they are. Fight it people. Don’t listen to the empty rhetoric of these industries that only want to keep it illegal because it only affects their bottom line. They don’t really care about you or your personal freedoms, only their bottom line.
    Also, don’t give me that “what if our kids smoke” thing. If you have children that are toking out in the garage it’s not the inanimate greens that caused this, it was bad parenting. I love it when parents blame alcohol or weed when they bust their kids. The weed or bottle didn’t jump in their hands, it was your bad parenting that did that. Talk to your kids. Don’t scare them with empty rhetoric. If you lie to them and tell them that weed is the devil, they toke, realize that it didn’t kill them and that their parents were bs’ing them, they will wonder what else you lied about. Be honest. Do research. Don’t be a sheep.
     
  15. Driftingalong

    Driftingalong Well-Known Member

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    Mar 6, 2008
    1 simple fact/truth: those that want it, will get it.

    I doubt you would see an increase in users if it was made legal.
     
  16. ughVeeBee

    ughVeeBee Well-Known Member

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    Apr 23, 2009
    ...Let's not get carried away now :rolleyes:

    But right on, there is so much behind all of this which only serves to compound the folly of why it's illegal.

    The biggest joke is how they use "protecting the kids" to keep it down. I'd like to see a statistic of how many people in total have lost their lives related to drug wars, cartels, etc. -- basically any death not related to it's use but rather than death related to simply the fact that it's illegal. I'm sure there are hundreds of youths losing their lives each year just related to the fact that it's illegal, as opposed to the zero that die each year from using it. Such a joke.
     
  17. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008

    Thank you. Government and politics can suck a big fat cockadoodle.
     
  18. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    i think medical marijuana should be legal. It makes you feel better, and seems to have less side effects than a lot of the pain medication and anti depressants out there. For some individuals, who are pone to addiction and other potential side effects, then it may not warrant their use, but that is the same with all drugs out there.

    i am undecided about making street marijuana legal, but it does seem to be costing our country a lot of money making it illegal. So much effort is required to police it, and our jails are jammed with people breaking marijuana laws.
     
  19. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    dont make it street legal. Make possesion a huge fine. Like in CA. allow legal purchasing by licensed individuals.

    And here is another of my observations.

    Everyone I know back in Baltimore and OC MD all smoke weed. Everytime I touch down in that state, every person I know has a dutch master rolled full of schwag....

    And in California, most people dont smoke. They can, but they dont. Its funny that way that all my friends in CA just drink, but everyonee I know back in the communist state of MD is a pot head....

    If people like it, they will do it. The state can make money off large fines, but street level drug wars and locking up every 16 year old that you pull over is ruining a lot of young peoples lives. It ridiculous. No one wins.
     
  20. rgnsup

    rgnsup Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Maybe we should dethrone our government and all of us run sh*t!