OCBP oversteps its bounds

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by bb.rider, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

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    Apr 20, 2008
    long story short:

    i paddled out at 44th street at about 4 pm wednesday night. oblivious to the world, i carved up some waves on my sponge, and ended up drifting up to 48th street.

    since i didnt paddle out there, i didnt know that it was the surfing beach that day. maybe 10 guys out and everybody was pretty spread out. it was probably 4:45 when this kid paddles his surfboard over to me and tells me to get out and go somewhere else. he was a lifeguard but i did not know that at the time, because he never identified himself as one. i thought he was just some d-bag breaking my balls because i was riding a sponge. i paid him no mind.

    10 minutes later, a different guy swims right up to me. in a very hostile voice he asks me if i want to do this the hard way. he basically swam out to provoke me. i answered his brutality with my own brutality. he swam in and called the cops. he never once said he was a lifeguard.

    i rode waves for another half hour while the guard and cops were waiting for me. after catching one close to the inside another lifeguard came and told me i should come talk to the cops. he was respectful but even he didnt identify himself as a guard.

    so i got a $50 ticket for disobeying a lifeguards orders. i am sure that i will get off when i go to court.

    this is not about spongers vs surfers. i have been living here for 14 years and can get along with anybody.

    lifeguards need to show some respect for the guys that are out in the water the other 9 months of the year when the beaches go unguarded. if you have an issue with us, you need to identify yourselves as lifeguards. we are not used to you being there. dont assume we know who you are.

    show respect and you will get respect.
     
  2. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    lifeguards are gay.
    same thing basically happened to me in seaside 15 years ago.
    go down to their gay 'headquarters' tomorrow morning and confront them with what they did and how wrong it was.
    i did that and they never showed up in court,and i got out of even appearing before a judge=no court costs or anything.
    then be stoked that you have a ticket from a cop for 'failure to obey lifeguard.'
     

  3. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Well-Known Member

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    May 12, 2008
    So you have lived here for 14 years and you didn't turn around once and see two giant yellow lifeguard stands and fflags? Not to mention that you would prob know that surfing is not allowed between 10 and 5:30. And now your whining about a $50 fine? I don't know man your storydoesnt make that much sense.
     
  4. surfordie

    surfordie Well-Known Member

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    May 2, 2010
    That does sound lame as ****. A lot of these lifeguards are college dudes who just come out for the summer for a job. Thats it. You'll be surprised that a lot of these guys aren't even residents of your town or whatever town they happen to be guarding in. Didn't you call them out on why they didn't identify themselves as lifeguards?


    And Beachbreak not trying to get all pc on you, but are you going for some kind of record to see how many times you can call things[having nothing to do with sexuality] gay?
     
  5. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    uh,the definition of 'gay' has changed since it meant happy,then ****sexual,and lifeguards are gay
     
  6. ocripcurrent

    ocripcurrent Well-Known Member

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    Feb 27, 2008
    Yea dude obviously I sponge, but I know about the surfing beaches. I was out at the same spot earlier that day with my buddy who rides a shortboard. He went down to 47th-46th, I stayed with a pack of younger spongers on 48th, I stayed right up on the flag. Gotta recognize your position in the water, you weren't paying attention.
     
  7. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    When I was a guard (and no I'm not gay) we were required to carry a can when we went into the water. There was never a mistake then.
     
  8. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Sorry, but I have to agee with Moose. After about a week, you know surfing beaches, swimming beaches, lifeguard shifts, etc. 14 years.... since i didnt paddle out there, i didnt know that it was the surfing beach that day You didn't notice anyone on surfboards?? Come on dude... The guard should have identified himself as BP, but oh well. Good luck
     
  9. TDTubes

    TDTubes Well-Known Member

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    May 30, 2007
    It should have been obvious, as others have said, since you can only surf in a defined area. You should have heard whistles too as no doubt they were whistling at you before they swam out and said something. The lifeguards can be a hastle, but you never know when you will need them, so show respect. On that note some are harder to show respect to than others.
     
  10. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009

    ditto.

    i didn't carry a can when i went out to "play" but i certainly made sure to take one when doing something "official".


    & just b/c you don't like something doesn't make it "gay". as i tell my students, "gay" is not a synonym for "stupid".
     
  11. n2waves

    n2waves Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2009
    Sounds like they were doing there job to me, you were boogie boarding in one of the designated surf zone. You can sponge anywhere, why would you want to be where all the surfers are? :confused:It is so obvious the area is zoned for surfing only.

    What is annoying is how some lifeguards make you wait until exactly 5:30 pm before you can paddle out versus others. I was waiting to paddle out, it was 5:25 pm, I could see many surfers paddling out a few streets down and it was not the surf zone so I ran down to the water and started to paddle out. The lifeguard whistled at me and made me get out, there was no one in the water. I pointed up the beach at the other surfers, but he still would not let me go until exactly 5:30!!!
     
  12. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009

    even thought that maybe you could've just asked if you could paddle out rather than just assuming? i'd bet that if you had, the guard would've been fine w/ it. he prob. kept you out just to make a point. it WAS, technically, still "guarded hours" when surfing is prohibited.
     
  13. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Yeah, out of town guards operate differently. They should never be disrespecting surfers. That 5:30 stuff is BS. I get it, they do that everywhere, but if no one is out... Come on. Thats lame.

    And although I agree with most people who are saying that this guy "should have known" about the surf beaches, if some lifeguard is out "surfing" he is not on duty. Now, if a guy in bright red trunks paddles out from the beach on the giant 12 foot labelled "LIFEGUARD" board and tells you to do something... Then you listen. This is a guard, who is on duty. If ANYONE is out already surfing in the zones, they have NO AUTHORITY whatsoever. Same goes for my area. I know the life guards. And just because you are on your "break" from work and you paddle out. You get NO PREFERENCE. You dont get a free spot in the line up. You will NOT drop in on me. They are citizens when they are in the water. When they are on duty, on land and come out and command something. You must respect them back and listen... But if ANYONE talked to me the way this guy said they did, I would have reacted the same way. Tell em to fu** off. You should have paddled back south, but still cuss them out first. Sounds like they cried wolf and then ran in to get backup, because they were kids with big mouths and no balls... If you wanna paddle up and threaten someone, you better carry it out or else you are just a little bi**h. Thats funny to me that they paddled in and got help. Clowns.
     
  14. eshore

    eshore Well-Known Member

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    Jul 22, 2008
    i always find theres a break breaking better than the surfing beach. why would you sponge in a crowded surfing beach when you can be anywhere?
     
  15. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

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    Apr 20, 2008
    i was just passing through. no i wasn't concentrating on the beach, i was looking out for sets. the fact is i had 3 lifeguards approach me and none of them identified themselves. it was 4:45! i just wasnt paying attention to the beach. nobody in the lineup had a problem with me being there nor did anyone say that it was the surfing beach.

    sure i figured out what was going on, but at the point i didn't care. i took issue with the hostility that the 2nd guard showed towards me. he was a sergent. it was totally uncalled for. he swam out to me just to provoke me. that is what this is about.
     
  16. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

    60
    Apr 20, 2008
    a simple answer to that question is: no i didnt notice the flags. there were alot of people on the beach and the flags just didnt stand out to me. it was 4:45 and i guess i figured the guards were letting them surf. it was the end of their shift and it was right there on the jetty.

    i am not whining, just posting a story of something that happened to me on the beach. that is what this forum is for.
     
  17. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

    60
    Apr 20, 2008
    of course i called them out for not identifying themselves, after i got out of the water. that will be the heart of my case when i go to court.

    i had a sergent of the OCBP swim out in the water to provoke a fight with me. to you that might be lame, to me it is bull****.
     
  18. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

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    Apr 20, 2008
    the surfing beaches change every day. i dont pay any attention to it. jeez, we've only had about 4 days worth of good surf this summer.
     
  19. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

    60
    Apr 20, 2008
    i was just passing through. it wasn't crowded. maybe 10 guys spread out.
     
  20. bb.rider

    bb.rider Well-Known Member

    60
    Apr 20, 2008
    you are right, i wasn't paying attention. that doesn't give the sergent the right to come out and try to pick a fight with me.

    these lifeguards need to show a little profesionalism and respect.