Paddling getting slower?

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by Hash Slinging Slasher, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. Hash Slinging Slasher

    Hash Slinging Slasher Active Member

    May 8, 2013
    First of all, I'd like to say sorry for asking so many questions all the time. Second, I feel like my paddling has been getting slower lately. I'm pretty new, so obviously my paddling isn't up to par with more experienced surfers, but it was still pretty good for a while. I went surfing for about a week straight and a few hours each time and my paddling was slower by the end, but probably just from being tired. I took a break for two days and went back out today but it still feels just as slow. Does anyone have any suggestions or advice? Also, I haven't been able to keep the nose of my board up as easily as before even if I'm lying where I normally do on the board and I don't remember the tail feeling as heavy as it does as well. Could my board be waterlogged somehow?
  2. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    to far up on your board move back find our sweet spot. check your board for dings and you will see the water damage its hard not to. i think its all in your head personally just keep paddling harder until you feel the pain and paddle more but dont hurt yourself.

  3. Hash Slinging Slasher

    Hash Slinging Slasher Active Member

    May 8, 2013
    This might stupid, but what would water damage look like?
  4. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    You could be going against the tide and currents also. What the sandman said too. That sweet spot will start to move you well. The board won't plane well otherwise.
  5. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    In shoulder deep flat water, float your board so you can see how it planes. Push it forward so you can see how the rocker interacts with the water and where the sweet spot is. That way you can kinda figure out where to lay on your board. Don't forget to put your leash on. I once was frothing so much I paddled out with the leash still wrapped around the fins. It was very difficult paddling out. To increase paddling ability, watch lots of porn.
  6. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Foam will be discolored and if it's been a while since the foam got wet you'll see some dark spots the size of pencil dots. Fresh foam and foam that's been exposed to water look different. Foam that's taken on water will look a bit eaten away.
  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Too many variables to know for sure, like others have said, could be positioning on the board, could be tide / current conditions, could be a water logged board, check for dings and suck on it to see if any water comes out

    SHREDSLED Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I gotta think that if your board took on enough water to affect it's paddling, you would definitely notice it visually.

    To improve your paddle fitness:
    1. surf a lot
    2. swim regularly (seriously, do this, it will make a huge difference)
    3. do pull-ups / weight training (distant third)

    Also, don't forget to stretch your shoulders every day to increase range of motion and help prevent injury.

    It takes time, you need to build up those muscles. Just keep at it, you'll get there. +1 to what everyone said about finding the sweet spot on your board.
  9. staystoked

    staystoked Well-Known Member

    Dec 27, 2009
    Kelly slater once told me to stop dragging my feet in the water when i paddle...Sage advice that really worked for me.
  10. Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2009
    What surfdogg said about finding the board's trim sans rider...

    Plus make sure your going deep on the entry paddle. Way past your elbows. Then make sure you follow the complete motion thru the water, all the way to your hips before you lift out of the water.

    Most important, never windmill your arms, or let them go wide - wastes energy. Follow the side of your body with your hand up straight up along the board's rail past your ear, keep it tight, reach out, then repeat.
  11. tubesock

    tubesock Well-Known Member

    Sep 10, 2011

    I have one word for, make that two. Methamphetamine and Wavejet.
    You won't need any of the above advice. You won't even need the meth, it would probably just make the experience more invigorating given that you won't really have accomplished anything. Of course, if you take a liking to the meth, you won't ever accomplish anything.

    You'd better just find the sweet spot. Seriously, I was told by a few folks that almost any board you're riding, unless it has nose rocker like the shoes Hermie wears at the north pole workshop, you need to have the nose poking up out of the water about an inch or two. If it's barely out of the water you're obviously too far forward, and if you look like the Evel Knievel doing a wheelie then you both look like a dorkite and you are going to have waves roll right under you. Pick a spot on your board on or around the deck logo (most boards put them in view for a reason) and know where your big ol' schnoz needs to be relative to that spot every time you drop from your sitting position to go belly down and start digging. All the advice above about paddling deep and such is also spot on. It takes a lot of water in your board to really feel, unless you are John John Florence and you're riding a 5-10 in double overhead. My old longboard which I keep in the Outer Banks is probably 20% H2O at this point and I never miss a wave. My big wave mini gun is the same. I don't know about sucking on your board though. I'm not going there. :confused:
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2013
  12. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Might still be fatigue. Might've caught a bug. There's been stuff going around.

    With all the 0-1 conditions we've been experiencing here in VB this month, I feel like I'm getting out of "surfing shape".
  13. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Equis, I've got plenty of training implements to assist with the conditioning localized to surfing muscles. Let me know if you'd like to discuss.
  14. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Thanks, EMass. I've doing more running combined with sets of pushups, pullups, and sit ups en route. Haven't been back in the gym much lately. Maybe once a week, if that. Surfing has replaced my time in the gym. After being in an office all day, I prefer being outside - surfing or not. I do get out and paddle when it's flat but have been out less this month than last due the continual flat conditions. I think what's been lacking is the struggle or challenge of paddling out and just being in the water when the surf is heavier.
  15. skimdog

    skimdog Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2012
    Try scooping your hand under your board like your pulling something from outside to in on your downstroke.
  16. Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2009
    Paddle like an "S". Go under the deck. Out in Out. Slight bend to the elbow.

    Lastly, sounds silly but how old is the wax on the deck? Layer after layer will eventually soak water up, and if your riding with a year's worth, that could effect the board's weight.

    I just scraped a crap load off my old LB and it actually made a difference.
  17. kinggargantuan

    kinggargantuan Member

    Aug 17, 2010
    what kind of stuff do you do to assist?

    I'm looking into "yoga for surfers" and other conditioning and mobility type exercises.
  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Emass is in El Salvador right now so i'll help ya out. Surfing regularly and stretching before and after sessions, then between sessions go swimming as much as possible and focus on your technique, use as little energy as possible with the most gains i.e. efficiency, it's not about swinging your arms as fast as you can as it is about getting the most out of each and every stroke. Nothing will help you more than moving your arms through water, do that as much as you can and you'll unlock the key to paddling.
  19. Poseidon

    Poseidon Well-Known Member

    Aug 23, 2013
    are you practicing good posture? shoudlers back and off the board? how about your stroke? nice and deep? under your board and not on the sides? if all else fails go get a wave jet

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    Take Heed: The God of the Ocean has spoken. Sound advice. ARCH your back. When I'm tired I start to slouch on the board and paddling falls apart. No power. I watched some ugly wife shot vids...