PHL, sucking a little less these days

I think SJB was kind of hinting at the same thing as me. How often do you see "White boys standing on the corner smoking blunts"? I mean, I know plenty of white guys taking bong rips in the frat house that are out of sight, out of mind. I know white guys that sell weed, and if you want some, you call their phone, go to their house, sit on their couch, maybe have a beer and then leave like a normal person. Like I said, there are cultural differences in the way that people do things. Like SJB said, how many suburban neighorhoods have you walked through and been solicited for drugs the whole way down the street. These are common place things in the inner city, and it beefs up their profits and sales, because they let their intentions be known and it puts their freedom at risk at a much higher level....

And as far as factual numbers, that eye opening link that I posted doesn't bode well for the argument against preferential treatment for white people. And the fact of the matter is, yes, one could say, well, white people just get caught less. I disagree with that. These statistics are from all 50 states, nation wide, in the suburbs and the ghettos, in trailer parks and in the mansions. Its is the reality behind violent crime in this country. And its a scary one.

And yes, things like slavery and oppression and a million other factors play into those alarming numbers. But regardless of WHY these things are the way they are, they are just that. The way things are. So, while I agree we have helped oppress certain groups and we can do a lot more, the fact of the matter, certain "groups" in this country are simply responsible for a majority of the crimes. And even if you factor in racial bias, that doesn't even take a small chunk out of the actual numbers. Reduce every category by 10% based on racial bias and its still INSANELY lopsided.

I never knew this, but after a million and one people on CNN and other sites have been blowing these numbers up in comment sections, I did a little googling, and although a lot of it sounds racially charged, its public information that is right there for the taking. And its all true.

 

I've actually had the opposite happen.... While I'm working I sometimes find myself in sketchy neighborhoods. I've been pulled over a few times. They assume I'm buying drugs

 

I've been living in Philly the past 15 years. If your white driving in drug zone you will be pulled over! Badlands white people don't go there unless there coping dope! And 100% white cops and black cops racial profile and it's because they're low income and drugs are more prevalent.
Ghost check your pm. Never said it was officially decriminalized but most cops would turn a blind towards certain degrees of procession.
Racial profiling is real everybody can stop debating that fact...

 

No, I agree that things are not perfect, and sure a guy in a polo shirt in khakis with a pocket full of cocaine is far less likely to be harrassed by the police than a black guy walking on the opposing sidewalk wearing a 5XL white tee, baggy pants and 6 gold chains.... It would be ridiculous to not acknowledge that...

And I don't want to get too much deeper into this, as political and social topics on this site don't seem to ever end well... See the above comment about a white guy in a polo shirt.... There is an inherent problem (IMO) within the black community in the inner city. And I don't blame the people in the community. But there are red flags that they raise for no reason... And here is what I mean, and I will leave it at this: For the past 30 years, police in inner cities have used certain identifying factors when looking for criminals:

Example: Sagging pants... Little known fact, the saggy pants in the hip hop community ACTUALLY meant that you were gay in prison. This is a fact. That all started in prisons, and when you wore your pants like that, it meant you were a "receiver".... Prison Culture.... The extra large white or black tees. These are CLEAR drug turf symbols.... West Bmore used to rock the black, the east side used to rock the white ones. The gold chains were also a drug dealing symbol. Drug dealers from New York back in the day would accumulate them and basically used them as "assets" if they got knocked, or if they needed to re-up... The hiphop music to this day still promotes murder, drugs degrading women....

So in summation, a lot of the popular "Urban Culture" has all derived from criminal activity and over the years, non criminals in the community have adopted these styles and culture, making it more difficult to identify who is who and what is what.

And that is where I get confused. I don't know the answer. I am not saying that because a kid wears baggy pants and a 5XL tee with gold chains deserves to get shaken down every time a cop sees, them, but on the other hand, half these kids don't even know where this all comes from. The see the rappers dress like this, the athletes, all their heros, and it's a lot different when you are in Hollywood looking that way then when you are in the projects.... So I don't know the answers, but there are some inherent problems in all the different cultures in this country, but I don't know the solution. I don't think anyone does....

I guess I am just saying, a Black man in a business suit is going to get the same treatment as me in a business suit. Zach in polo in Khakis and a black man in polo in khakis walking down the street are NOT going to get searched or harrassed....

And further more, any white kid on the streets of Baltimore with a long white tee, gold chains, saggy pants is going to get the EXACT same treatment as a black guy doing the same.

They are often "FLYING A BANNER" for drugs and violence.

Not saying everyone has to dress like a dorky white guy to not get shot by police, but I also think its time that parents and leaders and heros in certain communities address the facts.

Stephen A Smith said this SAME thing on ESPN and almost got fired for it. He basically told the black community that they need to change their culture and change their ways because they are misrepresenting themselves as people.... Or maybe not. That is the debate.

Slide on.

 

I had a job a few years ago in Asbury,on the other side of the tracks,it was a little shop and I had to park on the neighboring street and it was the phukin slums.i really hate Asbury.every day on my lunch break il go eat in my car and try not to make eye contact with the fifteen black dudes hustling.i had everything from bicycles to dope to the latest madden game solicited to me.it seems like Asbury is too different countries with the tracks dividing the blacks from the whites

 

Oh MIS, yeah don't get me wrong, the black man definitely gets treated more harshly by the police....

Like, you walking down Broad.......puffing......the cops would most likely approach you. But, yeah, you'd get treated differently than Ice Cube, oh wait he does Disney movies now.....ummmm, you'd get treated differently than ........Jesus I can't think of a real, current rapper G...

Yeah, they might hassle you a bit, but they might just let you go without any ticket or anything.

But yeah you are right, the black guy would get extra hassled and definitely get a ticket or worse.....

Fair? I guess not.

But then again, living the "thug" lifestyle comes with it's costs, I guess.......

Then, I don't really like police, but let's look at inner-city cops....their mindsets.....

Who is doing all the shootings? Black guys.....

Who shoots at them? Black guys....

So, I guess we have to consider that........

Ahh the world is just a nightmare...........

 

I know man. I also had a college professor try and convince our entire class that the Cosby show was racist because it didn't properly portray what a successful black family would look and act like. Oh the irony. Because having a doctor and lawyer that don't dress in doo rags is the way the show should have gone. Maybe Theo should have been a crack dealer.

 

Zach 619.......

Hey you don't even smoke base, how do you know so much aboot the hood? You're on your game today, huh?

You're an interesting one, Zach. Someday you are showing me Baltimore. I'm dead serious too.

So people.......how come there is this culture of violence in minority urban neighborhoods?

It ain't just poverty.

Ain't no poorer than whitey in the Appalachians and they don't shoot each other every two hours....

Ahh I remeber the good ol days when Philly cops wouldn't do anything to whitey in the Badlands.....I mean nothing. You had to be unfortunate to wind up at the one corner out of 300 that the cops were doing a sting operation.

Otherwise if they did pull you over they'd just make you dump your 20 bags of rock down the sewer.....and have a good time trying to scare you.....

 

SJB:

Done deal bro. I know that town all too well. I hate to be cliche, but surfing saved my life when I left that town. I could see the writing on the wall and it was a place that will just bring you down to the depths of society. Things that I would see on a daily basis just became the norm. I began getting numb as a person, got really violent at times, ran with guys that were just terrible from the inside out. "Beef" used to be common place. Just a fact of life man. We used to fight anyone, anytime and then reality sets in. The guys went to jail for about 5 years, but a guy that we "had beef with" and had done some terrible things to came to my best friends house and shot 6 shots at him on his front lawn and stood there waiting for the cops. It's things like that that made me sit back and be like, why am I not at the beach anymore? Why am I in this sh** hole of a town?

When I met my wife, we continued living in Baltimore for about 4 months before we escaped the cesspool. She would wake up to gun shots every night from a few blocks away. I wouldn't even budge. The healing process began when I hit west coast soil, and day after day, month after month I began to appreciate pure, clean, honest things. And slowly, I hope I am right, but I think I became a better person. I only engaged in violence once on California soil, and it's cause I got cheap shotted at a Chargers Game when Ray Lewis Smashed Darren Sproles... I ended up scrapping with I don't know how many people on the way out of the stadium. It was complete chaos. It was like having other Baltimorons around me just brought out the old me. It was a scary time. Ever since then, I have been mostly peaceful.

The few years I spent neglecting the ocean in my life turned out to be the most detrimental time in my life. It's not too hard to get caught up in bad sh**. So yeah, I know every nook in Cranny in Baltimore and a lot of DC. 12 years ago, I could walk down damn near any street and blend in as a white guy. You want some mexican dirt, I could send you to 50 different places. Last time I got off a plane and went to Lexington Market, people were calling me a cop. I was actually happy about that. I was like, wow, that is the first time someone on the streets of Baltimore thought I was a cop.... It was actually a nice feeling, not to blend in with all the scum....

Not to get all deep on you, but since you went there earlier in the thread, I figured I would open up a little too you. There are many different, exciting things I left out of all that, but we will save that for the in person meeting over some cheap vodka in Fells Point....

had I not left the state of Maryland when I did, I am quite certain I would be dead or in jail. Again, surfing saved my life. It really did. It was one of those things that I forgot about for a little while, and it was right there with open arms when I needed it.

So yeah, that is how I know too much about the hood. Philly and Bmore are one in the same. Same sh** different zip code. That is why I have a hard time hearing some of the things I do about the topics at hand. Because the only name I would answer to in Baltimore was "Hey Whiteboy".... And I taught every derelict that went to school down there from Jersey where to go get whatever they want. And here is the funny thing, aside from some pot, I have NEVER been in to drugs, but I have been AROUND them all too much. I was around too many guys with guns. I was around too many people that would take another life in 2 seconds and not even worry about rotting in a cage... When you look around one day and that is all you see, time to go, ya know? Time to pack your sh** and bounce.

I hated Baltimore and Maryland in general, but over the years, I love it again and I enjoy every second when I am back there visiting. I just stay away from a lot of the places I used to be.

 

i will have you all know that i stopped reading pretty early on in this debasco (debacle+fiasco). i thought for sure this would be the one bastion against all the wah wah some people are different than other people crap that is spreading across the internet like the plague, but noooooo! you guys are just as big of whiners as everyone else! you arent changing anything, and that includes laws or minds of people who disagree with you. try shutting up and living life.

edit: i wrestled with using 'fiascle' instead, but was pretty sure you would all be too confused on how to pronounce it to even finish reading

 

Interesting topic but it's being over analyzed. Dudes get caught because they are stupid and aren't discreet. It's that simple. Far too many brothas have the attitude that they don't the a sh*t and as a result get pinched. Don't wanna get busted? Keep it behind closed doors.

 

http://www.billypenn.com/2014/10/22/the-new-love-park/

 

like red bank. one town on one side da trax; another on the other...kinda like an opened oreo cookie.