Quad Fin Recomendation for Mini-Simmons style planshape

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by pkovo, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    Thanks for all the replies. Really appreciate it.

    I've been running small double foil rears on most of my quads, but now from the last two comments I'm thinking maybe I should play around with that too.

    I read a little bit about that, and it seems opinions vary pretty widely on thie foil topic. I did notice a trend though in what I read, it seems like more of the guys leaning towards flat inside foil rears are bigger guys. Maybe a coincidence, but I'm a big guy, so mait's probably worth trying single foil rears.

    Dropped a line to the shaper to check whether those fins he sent with it are reccommended, or just more of what he had laying around . I suspect the latter, because I didn't actually expect any fins, but I'll see what he says. I believe they were suggesting 4 medium performers (actuall pc5) for the average joe sized guys in their mega mind, so who knows. They just seem very swept back. kind of reminds me af the AM template. I liked the AM fins in a tri-setup for a better wave board, but never tried them in a quad.
     
  2. Exit98

    Exit98 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 3, 2008
    The Coil guys always include the FCS II Carvers with their boards. When they used orginal FCS boxes, they always included the M5's, the fin they recommend for the Megamind. I havent read of anyone who liked the Carvers. When I got my latest 2 Coils, i sold the quad set on Ebay for $40, and the tri set is still unsold 2 months later at $30. I did buy the Reactors, since they were a more upright set, the closest FCSII fin in shape to the K2.1 (what I have in my original M80)
     

  3. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    Thank You. That makes sense. If they are going to include only one fin with all boards, I wish it was they stuck with the performer series.

    hey, way off topic, but how come you unloaded some of your older coils? I thought maybe you were moving away from them in general, but sounds like you picked up a few more. Moving to different shapes, or is it the new tech?

    This is my first one in Kick Tech, and I was a little scared of it honestly, being a "if it aint broke..." type guy. This new one is incredibly light. I haven't compared hand in hand, but it feels lighter than my older ones and it's certainly a more substantial board.
     
  4. Exit98

    Exit98 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 3, 2008
    Sold the megamind as I'm not a back footed surfer, which this board seems to really be dependent on. I reordered some of the same boards I had, but in a higher volume due to bad back, shoulder, knee, etc. When I opened the taco, I was in shock at how light the Kick boards were. Every time I sell a board, people comment on the Coils in the garage, and I show them the 4 year old M80... They are suprised by the whiteness and the lack of dings, then I show them the new M80 and they are floored. Never going away from the tech (though I did pick up a couple Stretch EPS boards), but NEVER going back to poly.
     
  5. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    I'll keep those fins in mind. Took the board out on Wed in small clean surf, and just threw in the 4 large carvers. Expected it to be real stiff with them, but didn't have grub screws for any of my old fins and shops were still closed. Anyway, they actually weren't bad. The board is a freaking blast, and it felt very loose despite those fins. I'll probably not run them again, but it went way better then expected.

    The board is crazy. Tiny conditions, but I found a jetty that was working with some waist high peelers. Gutless but with form, and this thing just ripped down the line effortlessly. Rode it like a short board off the tail, but as the waves became micro I could cross step out to the front third and trim like I was on a longboard. Just a crazy feeling board.

    The thing that surprised me the most though is how maneuverable it felt. It's so full and thick it looks like it shouldn't turn, but it does so easily. I had it made for micro conditions, but can't help to think how fun it could be on one of those head high days where it's a tad mushy through high tide. It would be a blast.

    I planned to run it with some MR TFX twins up front, and the GX trailers in the rear as a starting point because I know those fins from other boards, but after feeling it with 4 equal sized fins, I think I'll skip that setup. I may try it with four m5 fins next since I have them on hand. Thought I had 7s but can't find them, otherwise I would run them up front. I want to try a few setups before I buy a set because fin sets are pretty damn expensive. I don't want to miss.
     
  6. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Same. This is pretty much a mini simmons with quad setup. Dimensions are 5'7" x 22' x 2 3/8"

    I've tried it with several fin combinations and find that flat sided rear fins make the board feel more lively and responsive than double foiled rears. Also prefer the way the rear boxes are out on the rail toed in, rather than pushed in towards the stringer like some quads. I really dont want this type of board to feel like a thruster..i.e. pivoty.

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  7. pkovo

    pkovo Well-Known Member

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    Jun 7, 2010
    It's really a full 23", I measured it. The tail isn't quite the 19" I suspected, it's only 18.5" :p

    This has me rethinking what I'm using on other boards also. I have been using double foiled rear fins exclusively. I don't know why I got it in my head that I should, but I'm now thinking that is likely a mistake. I like a skatier snappy feel and perhaps my fin choice has been working against me there.

    I would actually like try the carver fins in a better wave board as fronts, but it has FCS fusion plugs. I just may end up taking a dremel or a saw and a file to tabs, and making them into old FCS fins.
     
  8. kidrock

    kidrock Well-Known Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    those Xbox quads def look like the shizzle. Unfortunately, I only have one board with a removable fin box system, and it's a Lokbox. Otherwise, I'd be all over those things. I'm running Pavel Speed Dialers, I'm pretty happy.

    I've only rode those mini-Simmons boards on a few occasions, but I really liked them. It seems to depend, as usual, on who the actual shaper is.

    My limited experience led me to believe that the magic is due to the displacement hull entry and the wider tail. I've only rode these with high aspect ration Greenough fins, no experience with quads on these boards. But the Greenough fins seemed to work wonders for me, personally.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2014
  9. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Buy the cheapest ones.....go surf....use the leftover money on cheap beers in quantity.


    Thats what I would do.