Question on quads

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by surftb15, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    So I have been surfing on a Kechele formula 4 the last few months. Took the board to Kauai, Ireland, and Rincon.

    In Kauai, the board was ****ing unstable as ****. Met up with a pro, she said to not ride the board so heavy front footed. I did that, and that seemed to work for a few hours (4 -5 foot waves in Hanalei).

    The next day, I head to beach break in Tunnels. THe same **** again. Wasn't riding the board as heavy, the board was just freaking unstable (8-9 foot beach break). I swapped the fins out , for some smaller fins in the back. This worked a bit, but again,unstable off the lip.

    Go to ireland, run into Carissa Moore. She puts me on these K2.1 fins, and that seems to work, but now the board doesn't have as much drive .

    What is the optimum quad setup that people use? Or should Quad just be used as east coast board only?
     
  2. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    personally, i prefer larger rear fins than the norm. on shortboard-like quads, i use the k2.1 quad rear (similar in size to a g-1000) & on my quad simmons, i use the pc-3 as back fins. that seems to provide a good amount of drive & hold, so you don't have that "unstable as ****" feeling. i'm also curious about the whole nubster thing...i'm thinking that may add a touch of stability to the set up as well.
     

  3. 252surfer

    252surfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 1, 2010
    damn. carissa moore is hot as ****!! haha. I'm actually about to get a quad for a RNF shape, any suggestions for riding it gents
     
  4. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    Alana Blanchard >>>>>> everyone else.
    She surfs Tunnels and PKs in Kauai all the time. Nicest as$ I have ever seen.
     
  5. 252surfer

    252surfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 1, 2010
    hahaha damnnnnn right!! i think i would need to change my boardies if she ever did a bottom turn in front of me...
     
  6. SJerzSrfr

    SJerzSrfr Well-Known Member

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    Mar 2, 2010
    nothing to add about quads, but for alana "soooo hot, want to touch the hiney..... ooowwwwwuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh"
     
  7. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    [video=youtube;pflxcqJCX8E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pflxcqJCX8E[/video]
     
  8. a2tall

    a2tall Well-Known Member

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    Aug 7, 2011
    Keep in mind that it is not only about fin setup but also about fin placement. it could be that the placement of the quad is not right for you. if you are sliding out your fins are probably to small, if you are not getting enough drive you fins are probably to small... although it could be determined by base, rake, height, surface area. all of these are factors for finding the right fin for you.
     
  9. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    I had no problem with the board on east coast, the extra drive was there. Anything over 5 feet though and hollow, thats a different story. I'm gonna mess around with this..won't be back in Kauai until December though.

    I was using the stretch fins before.
     
  10. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Well... you didn't give the length of the board or any other dims, but I would guess it's the board, not the fins. That board is best suited to smaller, east or west coast waves. The width throughout, from nose, through the middle, to tail a foot up is too wide for larger or more powerful surf. You need a narrower planing area overall for bigger/better surf.

    The idea of riding it off the back foot is a good one... there's a lot of curve in the tail, which pulls in rapidly through fin area and gives you some added control, which is what is lacking when you get that "unstable" feeling. Changing fins won't address that issue adequately. It will only make it more manageable.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2012
  11. Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool

    Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool Well-Known Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    I think the dimensions of Alana Blanchard's a$$ cheeks are too narrow. If you took the rest of her body and gave her Coco's (Ice T's girl) a$$ she would be perfect. With a wider bottom you could ride her in all conditions....
     
  12. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    The board was 6'8.
     
  13. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    effing first world problems... people who surf well enough to shred 8 foot beachies complaining about the quad. Gerry would have ridden it on a 3" thick single fin. haha just ball busting....

    like above, every board isnt going to work for you, no matter how well you surf. Ever consider that it is the shape and not the fins? I shaped a tri fin pin tail that I thought would be perfect in bigger surf, so I took it to Nica last year and slid sideways in every critical wave I dropped in on. I drank about a gallon of seawater learning that the board just wan't right for me. I would have been better off on my daily driver...
     
  14. surftb15

    surftb15 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 25, 2012
    would much rather drop in on an 8 foot beach then an 8 foot reef break...that's just me though.
     
  15. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    lmao...now that comment just made my day...hahaha
     
  16. wave1rider65

    wave1rider65 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 31, 2009
    I have a board similar shape and size to the one in question and was having the same issue.....First.... the board is designed to be loose with the super pulled in tail so in better surf it's gonna be different unless you're used to such boards. I ride a higher volume board and like the pulled in tails to compensate for more foam. I started off with IFT M5s in the front and used several rears with no problem in average surf. First time I got into bigger, hollow surf I slid out and ate **** cause the rear was so loose........I used more fin and the board works great on big days now. I put IFT M7s in the front and standard M5s in the rear. I'm 6'1 205 so I dont know if this will help but it's worth a try if you like the board and want to keep it.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2012
  17. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    most beachies, except for the likes of escondito, close out around 8' and become super sketchy. Then people head for the..... reefs....
     
  18. surfsuprick2012

    surfsuprick2012 New Member

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    May 2, 2012
    So I have a Von Sol Shadow. 5'8. I use the quad fin set up along with the nubster. For Fins I use the K2.1 quad set. Works very well and does have a lot of drive. The nubster from my experience holds well. Small waves you might get a little bit of drag but waist hi and bigger it holds in great and takes the squirliness out of the tail when turning and setting an edge after a turn. I ride the nubster in wasit hi to double overhead and I am sold on the concept. I also used it on my GIPOS and where the fins normally would have slid out.. the nubster kicks into overdrive and stabilizes the tail. I have tried a bunch of fins, but for my size the K2.1 quad set works well. Hey it was designed by the world champ and proven. obviously... But its all about preference really... what works for you. Dont be afraid to experiment, but honestly unless the waves are waist high or bigger, you really wont notice a difference in any fin. Good Luck.
     
  19. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    well, i would disagree w/ this. i tried a bunch of different fin combos in my bing puck before settling on a pg-7/pc-3 front/rear combo & much of that testing was in surf waist high & smaller & i could definitely tell the difference between the various fin combos i rode. same w/ different fins in my longboard...10" greenough 4A is the best fin for it, & i rarely ride it in anything over waist high.