Anyone know the details of the sand being pumped onto the beach at Rockaway and how it will affect the sand bars? This flat spell has rough so today I headed to 90th street just to get wet and drop in on some shin high bombs. One of the lifeguards said they were "fixing the sand" and that the beach was closed and that only 67th street was accessible. The concept of God's ocean being "closed" really bothers me but whatever. Anytime the Army Corps of Engineers is involved, you gotta worry about a good wave being turned into a closeout lapping on the beach. Just curious if anyone knows the plan.
same thing going on down here in DE, but it's been sh!tty since the last time they ruined it...so not losing much this time. I feel for you brother, just pray that one of these storms will be powerful enough to reconfigure the sand and get you back in business.
i know your pain.they already did br at my beloved spot that's been world class since sandy rearranged the sand.they sure know how to be a buzzkill.monmouth cty nj victim numero uno.last time I was at my regular spot it was a little 3ft which should've broke excellent on the good sandbar we had,but............a big pipe coming out of the water and the barge offshore did their damage already.that 3ft was waist high shorebreak on dry sand.so now im not leavin for the beach til we get a real swell that hopefully changes the oceanography but I doubt it.im too poor to afford gas to drive to southern jersey for a supposed regular day of surfing,so im on the sidelines til a hurricane comes and rips the beaches apart.sucks to hear they are doing the same in ny and md
The plan is to pump sand taken from 3 to 5 miles out onto the beach. This could leave the sandbars in tact. But downtown hasn't had great sandbars after sandy. It almost really became a good high tide spot. Also hard to tell what the effect will be when we no longer have waves in the Atlantic.... Ever.
its not hard to see what ruins sandbars when it comes to beach replinishment.for example,france,spain,portugal.it gets world class there,and it is directly across from us,so u wonder why are their waves good and ours suck?well the acoe isnt there burying breaks.they proposed a beach replinishment project in the 80s that wouldve installed a series of jettys in hossegor but was shot down,because you cant have a world tour event if br occured.also look at mexico.its all sandbreaks,points,occasional reef.there waves are epic most of the time,and when theres no swell u can still score.no acoe destroying shyt down there.also you look at pipe in the summer,the beach is nearly 3/4 of a mile long,and when the swells come in,the beach shrinks and sandbars form.its like going to your beach and looking at the dunes like that would be a killer sandbar.its hard to be a pro surfer in the mid atlantic,and thats why theres literally 6people from md to ny that sponsored by a bigname company like billabong.theres a lot of talent in this area,but you have to be on it.i look at jersey like its a cold water spot.the only time u can surf good waves is the winter.i lost faith in summer and hurricanes.we had andrea in june and that was it.and it was pumping because they didnt do the replinishment yet.now,we could get a swell like andrea,and youll have 6ft shorebreak instead of an outer sandbar
we had andrea in june and that was it.and it was pumping because they didnt do the replinishment yet. Andrea in Jersey was sick. Best waves in a long time. Well at least when the water was not 35 degrees.
This is the deal - The Great Lakes Dredge and Fill Company and their ilk, along with the Army Corp of Engineers, and a cadre of coastal engineers bought and paid for by said dredging interests are all in cahoots. It is the same all up and down the East Coast. They get paid for eating and for ****ing, and we get loss of prime surf spots and poor water quality. You can lie down and let it happen, or buck up and go to meetings, organize protests, and educate the public what a boondoggle and a waste of hardworking taxpayers money these dredge and fill projects are. We lose some, but we have stopped or stalled alot of these BS sand moving debacles from ever happening. Time well spent. In the end, Mother O will wash it away, hopefully sooner than later. I've never been to Rockaway Beach except when I listen to the Ramones, but all up and down the coast, the song remains the same.
IMO, The problem with beach fill harming sandbars has nothing to do with the distance from the beach where the sand is taken from. I've never seen a beachfill project take the site from within a mile of the shoreline, so the actual surfing sandbars are not mined for the beachfill material. The problem is when the beach is significantly widened, the old sandbars are buried underneath the new beach, and the water depths just offshore is WAY deeper. If the current sandbars 30 yards offshore are now 4 feet deep at mid-tide, picture the new beach sticking out into deeper water and now its 10+ feet deep 30 yards offshore. In that worst case scenario, any wave under head high is pretty much just gonna roll in and not feather until its literally within 50 feet of dry sand. Hopefully your project doesn't result in these conditions...many have.
Don't you live here? Take a walk out and see, the break is dead. And there is a second round of sand pumping to come, this time going all the way east, so say goodbye to the surf-school breaks too. Looks like a good time to take up skimboarding.
