Roy Stewart is a Zen master...

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by KookieMonster, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. KookieMonster

    KookieMonster Well-Known Member

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    Jan 13, 2012
    http://www.dailystoke.com/interview/interview-with-zen-master-shaper-roy-stewart/



    From the same philosophy that brought us, "There is no way, there are ways" comes... Roy Stewart?!?

    I think what frustrates most about Roy boy is his stubbornness in believing he is right and we are all sheep. He says that we are all being hand fed b/s and that we only do slashes and other fun maneuvers because they are in surfer magazine... point taken... and true for some... but his ego/identity is getting in the way of understanding.

    Roy identifies with going straight and trimming his 'king of Hawaii' boards. Whereas some identify with riding 9' boards using a cross step to control the board. Whereas some ride 6' boards and identify with... you see where I am going with this. Just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it right... doesn't make it wrong either (the point Roy seems to miss). It's like the guy who first put vanilla in ice cream... someone else licked it, liked it, said it was good, and now that is the new plain. People aren't brainwashed... they just like ice cream. Some like more than one flavor, some like jimmies, some don't even like ice cream!!

    I digress, some of us do not identify with any of this board talk, but are entranced with identifying with the ocean, waves, water, whatever this art means to them really. The problem with identity is that when it is questioned we feel attacked and we feel we have to protect what we see as ours. Roy is no different than NJShred machine or any hard nosed boarder. Their identity/ego is deeply ingrained in them. Fortunately shredmachine will likely grow up and learn the errs of his ways. Unfortunately for Roy he seems to be stuck. Let him be, he is one his own path as we all are..

    We are all captivated by the same energy, board or not, when you ride a wave you feel something. Some will thank Krishna, some will thank Christ, some will meditate in the water, and some will thank nature. Everytime I surf I give honor and respect to what ever it is that created the waves. I also thank those who came before who made this art... I never would have figured all of this out on my own. Remember what what brought you into the water in the first place.. beyond the apparel, beyond 'the next new board revolution, beyond olo's and alaias, beyond beyond. What brought you here? Thank you for reading.
     
  2. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    why do you give this douchebag the attention??
     

  3. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    You, sir, clearly know the sound of one hand clapping, at least moreso than Roy...well worded, good read.
     
  4. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    As much as Roy thrives off of the attention he gets here, I like how Kookie monster conveyed the sprit of riding waves.
     
  5. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
  6. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    I agree with the "why do you give this dbag attention." If people would just stop themselves from posting on any topic that has to do with this kook he would disappear only to show up as a minor blip on the radar everytime he posts something and the time it takes for the that topic to fall down the latest post lists.

    we all have to show a little restraint when it comes to roy... he's "special".... probably takes the short bus around town.
     
  7. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Right on, we all love waves and the ocean and limiting yourself to one type of craft and one style of surfing is just plain stupid on either side of the fence.

    Oh and I also love how you ***** slapped Roy and Sherdmachine in the same post! Classic.
     
  8. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    While I agree with your short essay, I am against giving him any more attention.
    I go straight along the face and trim as well, but that is because I am only on my second year of surfing. As I gain more experience, I will turn and carve more. There is no brainwashing here. I think carving a wave sounds like more fun and more of a rush. I also surf for the health benefits, and more turns means more stabilizer muscles being worked. I don't care about being the best surfer, nor do I care about competing. I have always loved the water, fishing, swimming, and boating, so surfing was just another excuse to spend time out there. It is best not to play into his games. The best thing to do is ignore him, and he will go away. He craves the attention and loves the arguments, as they are an easy way to spam the forums. More Roy threads means more google hits, and better chances of him actually selling one of his get-rich-quick boards.
     
  9. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    Agree with you guys. It seems like the past month this forum has been clogged with threads seemingly started for the sole purpose of starting flame fests, and legitimate threads hijacked. Then the trolls follow once they see how easy it is to get people started.
     
  10. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    well going back to the ORGINAL point of this thread (at least i think): what brought you into the water

    For me it was a few things.

    1 surfing is alot less painful then skateboarding (at least on the bones, and abrasions) and after doing that for 12 years everyday i needed some r and r.


    2. i love the water

    3. its ****ing fun

    5. it puts you on a lifelong journey for something other then money, fame, or "success"

    5. THE BIGGEST REASON OF ALL: in the winter i get to pee in my wetsuit.
     
  11. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    This is all great stuff, man. I definitely like the Krishna reference. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krisha teaches us to live by love & dharma in order to set ourselves free from an egoistical mindset.

    We're on this forum for a reason - we all share the bond of wave riding. We're all in this together.
     
  12. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I think the reason so much anger is spread around other threads in the forum is because we are all stuck on a computer right now, instead of being on the water where we know we belong.
     
  13. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    ^^^^^Yup, we're not meant to be couped up for this long every day.
     
  14. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I think seldom seen is on the right track...

    We're the most evolutionarily advanced being on the planet (in the universe?). Our brains love to be challenged... to compete... and we love to take risks. We're also curious... and introspective... and we're programmed to want to do things that give us pleasure. Music, food, art, writing, and all other forms of self expression that require the complex neurological connections that only higher life forms have... are all part of being human. And originally, they were things that helped us survive and continue to evolve. So my answer to why we do this has to do with a combination of all of those things. I would even argue that the things that "scratch that itch" for us humans are only here because they take the place of more primal urges directly related to our survival and procreation... to hunt things down and kill them for food... or to conquer other peoples and take their resources and mix our genes... all the things that are no longer "appropriate" for us to do at this advanced stage of biological and social evolution. We're not challenged to survive, or to explore to find new territory, so we find our thrills in other places.

    Anyway... about Roy... although I have little appreciation for his style of surfing, he has a keen sense of design theory, based on physics. If anyone could have that kind of conversation with him, you might appreciate at least that about him.
     
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  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Good points being made here, just take a look at the Lion at your local zoo. He / She is merely just a shell of what they were created to be. After years of being locked up in captivity and being fed on a regular basis it's no wonder why. It's sad really. Same goes for humans, look around your offices and ask yourself if they were a lion, would they be the kind you see at the zoo, or the kind you see in the wild?
     
  16. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

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    Jun 6, 2012
    Time away from the salt certainly breeds a lot of hostility, especially when you're stuck behind a computer screen all day. I'm no philosopher and I'm certainly not a zen master, but I do believe that there are a lot of internet gangsters that need to realize what's worth fighting for. If Roy wants to sell surfboards for millions, so be it. He's not going to stop what he's doing just because a few online surf community members thinks he's an intergalactic astronaut. Bottom line, this forum digitally connects surfers from all over the world. We should be embracing our differences, while learning about other surf communities that many of us will never be apart of. I have definitely enjoyed reading about the 23' Jersey waves, the Texas shredders and getting the 411 out west from Gaffer. We can talk all the **** we want on this forum, but we're all one when it comes to what we love doing the most. Every year, we should all get together and put back a few brews. I'm sure we will find more simiarities than differences.
     
  17. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
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  18. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    The observant will notice that I said nothing at all about Zen... I never do....that was just a title someone made up.

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  19. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    "Zen" has always struck me as a word that non-surfing journalists use to describe complex, cerebral, or deeply held emotional concepts associated with surfing or surfers when they are too lazy, have too limited a vocabulary, or think their readers are limited, to dig deeper and actually find more descriptive words.

    It seems like its used FAR more to describe surfers, than it is used BY surfers to describe.
     
  20. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    im down dude. lets make it the skatebarn?