Sand Reconne?

Discussion in 'USA Mainland Surf Forum' started by NotAMasshole, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. NotAMasshole

    NotAMasshole Well-Known Member

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    Jan 6, 2016
    I know you guys in NJ and NY love this ****. I recently moved to a spot right above the beach. When there aren't waves, I am walking out at low tide, looking for dips and rises. This beach doesnt change that much as the sand is pretty hard packed. What i want to know is- what are the key things you are looking for if there is little variance. Typically a rise I know will create an A-Frame, and a dip can create more of a one directional wave, but of course that depends on swell direction as well.

    Give me your BS responses as well as your honest ones. I know theres a few of you that do this on the reg. Cheers, hopefully the waves come back
     
  2. Kanman

    Kanman Well-Known Member

    732
    May 5, 2014
    Interesting topic. It’s really a matter of getting out there and hunting. I’m sure the other guys can give you better advise’ than I though.

    Recently I’ve been so pressed on surfing my regular spot, that I haven’t even tried scouting out other breaks. This all changed last Sunday when I realized it hasn’t been working nearly as well as it used to. Time to bust out the reconne and do my due diligence.
     

  3. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
  4. Valhallalla

    Valhallalla Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2013
  5. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Just as the leaves whisper the words of the wind, so do the waves tell the secrets of the sannde.
     
  6. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I might as well come clean....
     
  7. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    LB hit it - if you can see the sand even at low tide, what youre looking at is too close to the beach to affect a quality surf break very much. Someone mentioned a-frames...the sand you can see isnt producing a-frames...the sand in 6 feet of water is making the a-frames. Unless youre surfing 2 foot waves...then its sand in 3 feet of water.

    I look at swell lines coming in.

    My recon is passing up the spots I KNOW are breaking, and checking on a day with a nice 2-3 foot typical period swell and watching how the swell lines are interacting with the bottom and with groins/jetties.

    There are a couple of spots on Delmarva that take a while to get to, and can range from having unsurfable sandbar conditions to being a real gem.

    People give up on them....stop checking....but YOU do the recon...and score it uncrowded when the next swell hits.
     
  8. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    #cindarelladream

    Nice breakdown brah! On a small day, maybe the day before swell hits, or last day of winding down swell, I look for where or if there are groundswell lines that kind of feather but don't break at high tide, on the mid or outside, Then I kinda have a clue where it will break at high tide away from the herd. I've found a few uncrowded gems lately.
     
  9. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013

    Duuuude!
     
  10. Wavestrom

    Wavestrom Well-Known Member

    477
    Jul 5, 2014
    Watch out for the drum sand when you ride the maker.
     
  11. DonQ

    DonQ Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2014
    SAND....forever changing.
    throw in a dredge a barge or two and a pump, add water and mix.
     
  12. Son Bather Bob

    Son Bather Bob Well-Known Member

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    Jun 16, 2014
  13. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    its hard to do propuer sand reconne on the beach.for the best results u want to fill ur pockets with sand so when u get home u can analyze it under a microscope.i find sand with 2 oxygen molecules holds long periods a lot bettuer
     
  14. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
  15. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    When the sand is medium grained, kinda ground up coral and shell pieces, and if its tubular, I usually find some stuck on my **** after a good session.
     
  16. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    Yup. I do my sand reconne by plucking it from my grundel.
     
  17. luminosity

    luminosity Well-Known Member

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    Oct 8, 2017
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    cover your tracks..
     
  18. NotAMasshole

    NotAMasshole Well-Known Member

    83
    Jan 6, 2016
    MadeItStop- Great response. Very eloquent for 430am. Cinderalla dream must be similar to tangerine dream after reading leafly's description. Do you know what the flowering period is for that? Tangerine dream took way to long to come to fruition so we phased it out....

    Back to the sand- thanks for your input everyone- Obviously we all like being at the beach, and really it just gives me another reason/purpose to be down there amongst the salt. Ill try and keep up my good work and hopefully it pays off