Serious question: buoy readings/tidal anomaly

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by dreko, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. dreko

    dreko Member

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    Sep 20, 2012
    Hey Forum

    Just curious, I'm usually pretty good with checking the buoy data readings from National Data Buoy Center, especially Station 44065 (NY harbor entrance)

    Over the years I've found it to be a pretty straightforward, simple way to get realtime readings. However today I'm a bit stumped.

    Buoy is reading Wave Height (WVHT): 5.2 ft
    However, near shore, cams, etc are looking really weak. Maybe a 2ft shorebreak in Long Beach, NY. Weak during the incoming high tide..looks really flat

    Is this higher buoy reading due to the unusual higher tides that scientists have been studying?
    http://hamptonroads.com/2009/07/higher-tides-affecting-east-coast-especially-midatlantic
    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/07/hightides/

    (old article, but ongoing continuing pattern? "Boon, a professor emeritus of marine science who has studied tides most of his career, described how Atlantic wind patterns and currents can subtly shift, often without explanation. The shift, in turn, pushes more water onto East Coast beaches, marshes and coastline through higher tides.")

    or am I missing something else?

    Usually, I find if forecasts are chest high, buoy wvht is fairly accurate. I just don't know what to make of today
     
  2. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I always use 44025 the LI buoy. Wave direction is NE. No bueno for Long Island...
     

  3. dreko

    dreko Member

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    Sep 20, 2012
    Ah, got it... I should also use 44025 to average it out. 44064 has the swell direction coming in ESE... but I think you're right.
    Swell trains in LOLA are showing S and NE, but I guess the buoys are getting the stronger NE swell... hence the 'false positive' reading

    thanks
     
  4. travy

    travy Well-Known Member

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    Jul 3, 2010
    a lot of east in it and the low tide was draining it out early. eastern spots turned on after 9am with fun, clean chest high surf. always trust the buoy!
     
  5. dreko

    dreko Member

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    Sep 20, 2012
    Hey Travy,

    Yeah, seeing a lot of East in the swell now that I'm digging deeper. So NJ was nice? Good for you guys!
     
  6. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Winds are hard North, pushing waves away from the coast.
    If you look at the Swellinfo wave maps, you can the direction of the dominant swell, which today is moving away from Long Island.
     
  7. ocsurf32

    ocsurf32 Well-Known Member

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    Jul 22, 2012
    Where do you read these bout readings from? ( I'm just curious cause I have no idea) Also could someone tell me which one to check for Ocean City NJ. I would appreciate it greatly
     
  8. travy

    travy Well-Known Member

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    Jul 3, 2010
    rockaways yo!
     
  9. Losttsol

    Losttsol Well-Known Member

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    Feb 18, 2013
    You gotta look at the period too. 5 feet at 6 seconds is much worse than 3 feet at 12 seconds.
     
  10. dreko

    dreko Member

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    Sep 20, 2012