Shaping

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by BassMon2, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Yes... pour your accent color(s) into your base color, and give it a couple figure 8 swirls with a stick. Don't over mix it. Then pour it out with a bit of pattern to your pour. Use LOTS of resin.

    Epoxy swirls don't get the color separation you get with poly. That's just how it is. They tend to blend together a bit no matter what you do. But you can still get decent results... just not like you get with poly.
     
  2. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Yup that was my plan of attack. Iv seen some epoxy boards and i sort of like the lack of separation. Almost like a smokey effect. We will see what happens.

    And DP, that video is actually what got me to shape my first board. Iv always wanted to but didn't have the space or time. Saw that video and was like, yeaaaaah it's time. Although i dislike that they didn't glass there own boards. Kinda lame
     
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  3. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Board i shaped for the local Surfrider Chapter to raffle off. Its about 6'0" x 20" x 2 3/8"
    I've come back around to liking these 80s shape full volume squash tails.

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  4. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
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  5. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Just keep in mind that when the colors mix slightly, you get whatever color those two colors make... so use complementary colors, and factor in that color. Green and white should be fine... but something like yellow and blue... you'll get lots of green. Red and blue... you'll get purple. Other colors... make mud.
     
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  6. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Just spent the whole day shaping. Im really digging the shape. Did much better with the rails this time. It's a going to be a single but i might make myself one as a thruster with a pin tail for those big swells. Not going to give the whole play by play like i did my first board but he's what this one is looking like....

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  7. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    I absolutely did NOT nail the swirl. Got close. It's not terrible and looks much better in person. But it's not spot on. Actually think i used a bit too much resin as things got really hectic and messy. Got a few cool looking spots. Maybe the key for next time is to pour the green and white swirl mixture in smaller batches. Good learning experience though and not a complete failure so I'm happy with it.

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  8. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    That looks AWESOME!!! Like Coke bottle glass!
    Honestly, I like that way better than a marbled look, but that’s just me. It’s beautiful.

    Save your big scrap pieces of blanks, prepnthem like you would a shaped bort, and then mix small amounts of resin tints and practice on them. You can see how much ratios to mix, how to work them into your design patterns, how long they take to kick, and how much they blend after before they harden. Then when your ready to glass, you know the formula for those colors and that particular bort. I only know this through painting and gel coating boats and cars and using House of Colours paints - some of which are $500 a gallon. Temperatures, bases, what colors, ... all of that needs to be figured out before it’s on the subject.
    Do a few tests, using different colors, foams, resins, and keep notes and a few pics to refer to so when someone is asking you to do a bort, you have reference points. Make a scrap book of them and the boards - both for working them and remembering them.
    And that color work makes me see Brooke’s in a lemon candy yellow just like that... see what I’m saying? And I’m sorry you didn’t have your glassing stand for this one soon enough - when I lost my job I lost my work space too, and they where holding all my stuff hostage... in trash barrels in a wet storage container. So I lost a lot of my stock and pieces.
     
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  9. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Thanks man. This actually was the look i was going for, the marble was just similar. This is more of a white smokeyness in the green. Which is exactly what i wanted. Some spots look really nice, others just look green, and some are in the middle. If i can figure out how to replicate the cool looking spots all over id be in business!

    And don't worry about the glassing stands. I make it work in the meantime.
     
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  10. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Good stuff, Bass

    Thanks for freshening up late winter for us hacks
     
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  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    No you did not. But who cares. It will have zero affect on the wave.

    You get to experiment. Btw I’m digging the abstract!
     
  12. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    It looks fine dude

    I'm no shaper but I think this shape looks more refined than your first.

    face it, you progressed
     
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  13. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Thanks guys. Very happy with the shape itself. Rails and nose and foil in general came out much better and smoother then the first board.

    As far as the color im liking it, just being honest and realize there's plenty room for improvement there.

    Either way, sent pictures to my buddy and he's stoked on it so that's all that matters
     
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  14. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Very cool, Bassmon... Keep at it!
     
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  15. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Finished the board yesterday. Got to be honest, I'm a little bummed about it. Not looking for sympathy or encouragement. Just being honest. Let me explain...

    Shaping wise, board came out great and the process went smoothly. I was happy with my first board but this one came out better. Main thing i wanted to improve was the rails, and i nailed it on this one. Then i was totally taking a swing for the fences on the color work. As i already mentioned, i dig it, but i didn't nail it. Im totally cool with that. Second board and first shot at somthing like that, it was a learning experience and it don't look bad either. Also first time doing a cutlap. Which i liked doing. More prep work. But my laps came out way smoother and made the rest of the process easier and came out better. I planned on doing a pinline to cover the inevitable wobble in the cutlap line. So i didn't really put time into getting that line perfect. Then ended up passing on the pinline. So now the cutlap line is not too pretty. No biggie and wasnt so much a mistake, more of just a poor choice skipping the pinline. I also got some green marks on the white deck while lamming the bottom. Bound to happen and this is why i passed on the pinline....i already made it not look clean so why bother trying to cover up a few wobbles. Aside from those cosmetic whoopsies the glassing went great. Fin box time! I butchered the last one and learned! Use a jig stupid! So i did. Got a better bit as well. Routing out the hole was going great. I took my eye away. Look back. Somthing looks weird. I make passes on either side of the stringer then take out the stringer. Well one side was about half an inch longer then the other. Looking at it to see if i just stopped short on the one side.... nope. Jig shifted and i cut an extra half inch out of one side. Damn. Finished up and tried covering it the best i could with pigment. Box is straight and all. Just ugly looking now. On to the leash plug. Similar mistake. Was rushing. Grabbed the wrong size hole saw. The one for the leash plug has tape on it so i know when I'm deep enough. Well one slightly smaller had tape on it as well from work. Didn't double check before cutting. So now i grab the right size one but the pilot hole is gone since i already removed that material. Great. Naturally it walked. Very slight but still, got maybe an 1/8 inch gap on a small portion of one side. Again fixed it as much as i could. Rest of the build went great and sanding was much better as i was able to get everything much smoother throughout the whole process.

    My point is, cutlap wobbles, green on white deck, fin box, leash plug... all easy things that should of gone smoothly. Should of done the pinline, covered more of the deck while glassing bottom, and paid more attention while cutting both holes. If i had this board would of came out MINT. Best i can explain it is this. Your in a competition of sorts. Battle of the band's lets say. You gave it all you got and come in 2nd. No shame, second isn't winning but it's still somthing to be proud of. Compared to getting second when you nailed that fast solo you've been practicing for months, you'r timing is on point, then you goof on the simple riff you can play in your sleep. Dropped the ball on somthing simple. That one sits with you.

    My main concern is ride first. And i have no doubts it'll go great. Put alot of thought into this board for my buddy. He's stoked and doesn't care about the cosmetic mistakes. He says he actually likes the green spots on the white deck and wishes i got more on there. Not sure if he was being nice or is just weird haha. But yeah, happy with the board. Just sort of bummed the potential to kill it was there and i dropped the ball.

    Anyway, here's what the bottom came out like! On to the next one 20190316_113146.jpg
     
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  16. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    You put yourself on an extreme learning curve Pal.
    For two boards in, your killing it. And ask any honest shapers how many blanks they wrecked making mistakes, how many time they used the wrong resin, bad mix, etc etc... and those are guys that have a few under their belts. Mistakes happen because THATS how we have to learn. That’s all.
    I do however understand your feelings and I’m going to tell you their correct: sounds off, but knowing how you work, I know that thinking is what will drive you to be even better and do that “perfect” board and then that feeling of complete achievement that your hunting will be yours Buddy.

    And here’s a thought - your next one may not even need a pinline cause I’m seeing a candy yellow just like that green over the deck too!
     
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  17. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Second place is the first loser. Lol jkjk
    Sounds like you got a lot of experience by doing it and screwing it up for yourself. Board looks suite. Interested to see your progression on the next one!
     
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  18. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I just finished up a 5'7" x 21 1/2 " EPS Epoxy quad (far right) for the summer small sessions to go with a couple of small wave boards i made last fall but only rode a couple of times.

    The other two boards from left to right:

    5'2" EPS twinnie Bing Dharha inspired. Ridden a few times. Very fast and good in small 2-3 foot soft waves.

    5'11" x 19 7/8" Poly squash tail. Rides more like a regular shortboard but has enough width to be really fun in 2-4 foot sorf waves.

    All three boards are low rocker, single concave through the middle and fins going to a flat/vee right out the tail.

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  19. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Dude, I think i'm in love. Those are beautiful. Love the logo too.
     
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  20. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    +1
     
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