Shinnecock Tribe wants to kick out the richers from the East End...

that would be great if they took back all the land stolen from them. I don't really feel for any nationality except Native Americans. They really were screwed. They should take the land by force but then they would be called 'terrorists'. It's crazy that most this country is really their land. We should respect them.

 

Ugh, that's a sickening read. Those people have little chance on winning that battle.

 

Wow! What a hipocrite especially after making his Dances with Wolves movie.

 

Costner actually owns the land and is selling or sold it. 1,000 acres

 

It is of course a shame what has happened to the Shinnecocks, as can be said of all Native American tribes.

I've spent a lot of time out there (working in rich peoples homes), and I can tell you that even when the cigarette business was better, they still seemed economically challenged, and that is an understatement...

It's ridiculous that they are not allowed to build a casino. F*ck the Nimby's and all the other 'leave me and my money alone' people on the East End, most of them aren't even from NY state anyway. I hope a tidal wave sweeps em all away.

 

Yeah. He bought it a while ago and was planning to develop a casino and golf course. But when the plans fell apart he put it up for sale.

 

Did you ever go to the reservation while out there to buy smokes? If so did you notice that they were all mostly black and not Indian?
I used to go there when I worked out there. Some shady characters on the reservation.

 

its funny when a black guy or a latino tries to say oh im a black man living in America,like u should feel bad for them.sheiit how many famous native americans do u know of?il wait.....

we are all foreigners occupying their land,but we killed them all off so I guess its ours lol.kinda like what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.theres not 1 person in America that is truly American,except for me ofcourse.regardless we all have ancestors from Germany,italy,the Netherlands,etc..Ireland lol yea plenty irish and we are the biggest azzholes.im a mut,but im amerikkkan

 

Oh yeah, you could definitely say that there is some shady characters there.

I once arrived late, as most of the cig-stores were closing. I walked into a trailer being advertised as a cigarette store, only to see a group of five young men (who looked tough and African-american) sitting mostly on the floor, playing X-Box, and smoking a blunt. One of them turned around and said "We Closed." Hahaha.... I left. To their credit there was a good thirty or forty packs of cigarrettes staked on a makeshift display shelf.

I always hesitate to say that they are 'black' rather than 'Indian,' for a few reasons.

One, I'm confident that they find this assertion somewhat offensive, as it is entirely possible to look black but be a legitimate member of the tribe.

Two, in a part of the country where some of the first Natives were displaced, and additionally, where some of the first slaves were worked, it only makes sense that both displaced populations would co-mingle, for a variety of reasons.

In many parts of the world (Caribbean ) the descendants of African slaves have melded culture with local indigenous populations. We take this as normative and eat and drink and listen our way through such a culture, accepting it as natural. But if we visit a reservation on the mainland, we find it strange that 'Indians are black.'

This is obviously partially because of the history of U.S. race relations; but mostly because we often see dark people as 'black', and native people as some sort of teepee-living population. Out in Montana, on a huge reservation, I saw tribe members that looked 100% as I expected them to. But rest assured, on LI and there, the same levels of underdevelopment are present.

Edit: Out in the West Kevin Costner buys their land, but here in the Northeast it's Steven Spielberg. Hmmm...

 

Slashdog your posts have been increasingly insightful for a while now bro.

To all the other posters in this tread, have you been to other NA reservations anywhere else? Arizona and Canada reservations are as destitute as it gets. Like small trailer parks every 10 miles superimposed in the desert/great plains. It's something else.

 

Check out this abstract of a paper presented at an American Historical Association conference last year:

 

A paper was presented at the AHA that referred to Native Americans as Indians?

 

this land is your land.
this land is my land.
(or whoevers' it is)
its not their land.

 

cheap smokes, legal activities that would be otherwise illegal. F the gov't, keep'em there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

dig in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy

 

Lots of these presenters are students...both undergrad and grad...with panel members often being distinguished academics