Short, Long, or SUP, what's the difference and why does it matter?

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by DawnPatrol321, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    it really isn't.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Unless you know my medical conditions then STFU. Yes i've had diagnosis, no i haven't gotten surgery, but yes i plan on it. It's also not just that simple, a lot of it is hereditary and chronic, so it's not going away EVER. I do the best I can with what i've got right now, I have expressed several times that I haven't given up surfing my other boards, because I haven't, I paddle out on them all the time, but I find nothing wrong with the SUP seeing as I catch waves safely and without getting in the way of others, which is obviously most of your concern. I've not once had an issue with anybody at the beach, as a matter of fact most people are curious and ask me questions and are very polite about it because they see me out there doing my thing. It's not for everybody I agree, but stop assuming it's just an easy way out, cause it's not.
     

  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    That's weird because I figured this was rather common seeing as i'm not the greatest surfer in the world but I manage do very well out there on it. It's not my fault it's not common in other areas, but I'm not the only one at the breaks I surf, i'm one of several guys who surf SUP very well.
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah I suppose I did, that and to find out what everybody else thought and possibly open a few minds. I prefer surfing anything I can honestly, this isn't a crusade for SUP's, but i just thought it was interesting how many people are ignorant to them.
     
  5. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    DawnPatrolSUP, I think you'll see that there are a lot of ego's in surfing, more then most sports/activities...
    I think this exists because there is a limited resource in waves, and thus a natural desire to create a hierarchy to consume these waves. Those on the bottom of the pecking order, are not given as much respect or rights to consume the valuable waves. I think, putting it in this perspective, makes sense to me anyway.

    If there were perfect waves on every beach, like there are basketball hoops in most neighborhoods, then I'm sure it wouldn't be as big of an issue. And, lets face it, on the East Coast, we have a limited number of days with those really valuable waves.

    And, I don't see the board type you ride as the main factor in the pecking order, but how well you ride it and how much the other's in the water offer respect to you.
     
  6. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    well, you enjoy your plastic, chinese-made stand up crutch. shoulder issues or not, you would be a better surfer, & be less of a danger to others, on an appropriately sized longboard (as someone else said, 8'1" is not a longboard...it's a mid-length/"funboard").
    i'm 31, & my right should is messed up from a snowboarding accident in my teens. but by keeping (fairly) fit, stretching, & surfing regularly, it gives me no real problems. i really have to agree w/ the guy who said that it sounds like you're trying to justify using a SUP in smaller surf.
    but like i said, enjoy your pop-out kayak.

    edit: "ignorant" in this case is a matter of perspective. i've made my mind up that SUPs are a danger in the line-up, you won't persuade me otherwise. my opinion on this is based on the evidence i've gathered in line-ups up & down the east coast & around the world. that experience has shown me that, w/ VERY few exceptions, SUP=kook.
     
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  7. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thank you, I agree with this.
     
  8. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

    985
    Jun 27, 2010
    Based on your location, you actually surf some areas where SUPs can be a non-issue, but it is up to the user. Some of the beaches in the Mid-Atlantic area of this forum have restrictions on where you can and can't surf. I don't think rules like that exist when I surfed in Florida. So with your SUP, you don't have to be at the main peak, scratching and clawing for every bump with the hungry pack of prone guys.

    Don't take some of the criticism towards board choice too seriously. I can almost guarantee that 90% of the guys who post here and actually surf regularly own a variety of boards, and don't really have any animosity towards a particular board size, shape, etc.

    In other words, it's not really as bad as it sounds.
     
  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    i wouldn't call it ignorance. its more negative opinions based on experiences. its been said many times in this thread that it is a very rare instance to see anybody riding an SUP even decently so of course the conclusion is that nobody rides them well.
     
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Great post, I couldn't agree with you more. The one thing I think people are missing here is i'm not stealing anybody's waves, or being reckless, or surfing at dangerous breaks, i'm surfing the E. Coast of Florida and the Gulf Coast of Florida for the most part, and i'm usually the 1st one in the water in the morning, and i surf for hours without getting tangled in line up. Usually i stay a bit off to the side of the line up, but sometimes i'll swing over for a quicky and then right back out, i'm not new to the line up and the attitudes and "egos" that go along with it. I just made this post because I don't see what difference it makes as longs as you can surf and be safe while doing it.

    Also, I think many missed the point that I have been trying to bounce back from shoulder issues and this has helped me with that and if people want to call it a "crutch" that's fine, but bottom line is it has helped me get back to where I was when i was catching waves on short boards, and I'm back to the point where i'm doing just that. I'm not "ripping" as many like to claim they do on here, but i'm definitely out there catching waves and having fun, which to me is all that matters.
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Maybe where you guys surf, there are other parts of the world where it is very common.
     
  12. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks dude, someone who understands this area and how much of a non-issue it is. I do exactly that, it's really not that serious.
     
  13. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

    347
    Nov 7, 2011
    DawnPatrolSUP, surf what you feel comfortable on for any particular day... as long as your in the water and having fun then there really shouldn't be any issue. The fact of the safety topic is relevant to all boards....yea a SUP weighs more...but if the rider knows what he is doing (which you probably do) then whats the problem? Id be more afraid of a novice on a short board then an intermediate rider on a SUP. Its not the board that's any more dangerous then the operator. There are hazardous people on all boards/water craft...

    To have a quiver where you can be out almost every day is a good thing, some do not have this luxury...other folks do not want this luxury. Here on the east coast, its something most should/have consider.

    I wouldn't waste too much more time on here trying to defend this issue....the people who understand what your getting at and where your coming from already have the same feelings.. and those who do not share the same thoughts, probably never will.

    Have fun, be responsible and show respect to all... doesn't matter what board your on or skill level.
     
  14. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    then perhaps you ought to keep away from the mid-atlantic. i know lots of guys in florida who say the same thing though.
     
  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks for your reply man, it's a very sensible post.
     
  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I have no desire to surf there, I prefer Florida, for obvious reasons.
     
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Don't be afraid, I know you'll instanting turn into a kook if you try it, but no worries, you can always come on here and tell everybody how much you rip, just look around.
     
  18. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    who on here has said they rip? People are telling your their opinions as you asked. its not our fault that we aren't validating your choice.
     
  19. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Pretty much everybody with the exception of a few sensible posts
     
  20. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    so only those who agree with your position are 'sensible' posts? I read through the posts and didnt see anybody say how they rip. Face it, SUPs are pretty much frowned upon as a wave riding tool on the east coast. if you like it then your thing. you seem level-headed enough to understand to keep way from the pack so enjoy yourself but trying to change minds that are already made up is pretty futile..