Skunked...FLAT AGAIN :(

Discussion in 'Northeast' started by shark-hunter, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    we don't like guards here because most of them are incompetent. Most of have had stories of saving somebody when the guards would not go into the water.
     
  2. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    haha. What area are you in that have lifeguards THAT bad? Certainly part of the problem on the mid atlantic to northeast is that the lifeguards are seasonal rather than pro's, but still. I think they deserve more credit than that.
     

  3. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    That's disgusting. They should be fired on the spot.
     
  4. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    I don't based on 30 years of experience.
     
  5. surfsolo

    surfsolo Well-Known Member

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    Apr 1, 2009
  6. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Of course you'll get there first sitting in the lineup right next to the person who's having trouble!
    That place can get empty after labor day. Let's not name it on here, but we both know which one we are talking about. It's different in summer swells. Lots of people. I've seen that spot deserted for 2 miles outside of summer. I'm just saying, if I have a choice, I'd rather have a lifeguard watching over when it's heavy and overhead and you can barely make it out. Maybe you have more water skills than I do that you make you more comfortable than me. But for me, I'd rather have guards and I find it frustrating that there their when I don't need them(waist high swells in the summer) and when it starts getting real they take off!
     
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  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    I made a save on a girl in a rip a few years ago and got reamed out for by the guard and his boss. SH, I would rather have another surfer watching out then a guard.
     
  8. Mad Atom

    Mad Atom Well-Known Member

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    Jul 16, 2013
    Dudes - blame the system, not the guards. They all passed some type of standardized physical test to be certified as a life guard. If most of them really suck that bad, it's a much bigger issue with the entire certification process. They probably have higher standards in HI and CA, hence the better performance. They're just doing what's expected of them, and the bar has been set pretty low. I'd never not surf because there's no guard on duty, but it can never hurt to have one there, especially if it's a sassy young lady.
     
  9. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Absolutely, very desolate in the off season(well, on season really;)), and IMO, very heavy once it starts hitting 6 ft and up... in those cases I'll go elsewhere where there might be a few guys out.
     
  10. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Oh and I should also add there are countless swimmers than drown in september every year on the ec. If you look at lifeguard protected beaches, drownings are almost unheard of.
     
  11. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Only if the system allows guard who won't go in after somebody in heavy conditions (and there are WAY too many of those). IMO EC guard programs focus way to much on athletics and too little ant ocean knowledge.
     
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  12. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    First of all Fitz, I wouldn't jump all over that because New Jersey and Rhode Island aren't the same places. I did have a debate, last spring, as to New Jersey being much more consistent than Rhode Island, but some of the RI guys didn't buy that. I guess the proof is in the puddin'

    Wow, it's bad enough that you are a kook, Fitz, but you also rely on the same old act - time after time after time.

    Yo, Fitz come up with something new.

    Actually Fitz, I haven't gone out this summer on any knee-high days. Had no need to. If I go a week with out surfing, I'll go out in anything just to get out. But it has never come to that. So, let me guess, Fitz, you didn't get out yesterday either, right? What kind of conditions do you go out in?

    Hey Fitz, how do you feel aboot the lifegaurds leaving after next weekend?

    Hey novices who are afraid to surf by themsleves, especially in dangerous east coast beachbreak, and those who actually NEVER surf: You shouldn't be posting on surf predictin' websites like you are some know-it-alls.

    I'm have been lectured aboot east coast wave orgins and how to measure waves by somebody who likes lifegaurds and won't surf by themselves. Wow, that's a new low for me.

    And I have some dork following me around giving me the business who actually NEVER surfs. It's too small. It's too big. Sandy just happened three months ago, six months ago, eight months ago...... Too many 12-year-olds......ahhh man.

    The internet is awesome.
     
  13. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Oh I forgot, Shark Hunter, you need to move out of Rhode Island............

    I hear New Smyrna Beach, Florida has waves everyday. You smoke up, dude? That whole town is in a haze.
     
  14. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    New Jersey = Rhode island's little *****
    How are the dirty needles in the lineup? That's got to be some core stuff right there....dodging needles.
     
  15. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    my go to spots are all ruined by beach replinishment.i wasnt surfing yet when they did the big br project in the mid90s so i dont know how long it takes for the beach to form a sandbar.all i can think of is we need a big storm to rearrange the sandbanks.right now its a huge hill to the water and isnt offering anything other than shorebreak.thats why i cant take nj anymore,or anywhere on the eastcoast.imagine your a skater or bmxer and everytime u go to the skatepark they dismantle it.how do u cope with that?iv been skunked 3 out of 4 times this summer.i see guys saying,hey theres waves over here.well come to my beach its flat!!!i remember the days u can park at the beach and see the conditions from the parking lot.now you have to walk down a hill to get to the water.why cant they leave our beaches alone.the only good spot iv ever been to in nj where all my spots are flat is lbi.if i was a billionaire i would move there,but i hear talks of br coming to their town too.lbi is the only place i know with outer sandbars.thats another thing.u can tell how good the rides are going to be by seeing how far the waves are breaking out.if its breakin 100yds offshore,youll get a nice long ride.but when its dumping right on the beach,u have to time a perfect takeoff,pull in the barrel for a millisecond and jump off your board into ankle high water.northern nj sucks.
     
  16. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Never seen one here.....never.
     
  17. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    only in the 80s.
     
  18. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    Never seen one here.....never.
    Also Cep, come on down to the island bud. PM me if you want, I will give you a few spots that are doing well right now...get the hell out of Monmouth for a while until the waves get larger.
     
  19. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    That's because you've never been out scoring 23 footers with the 'shred. He shoots up and throws his dirty steroid needles in the water.
     
  20. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Well, say you just scored a couple bags and you're out of needles. You can just go to the beach and find a few and bleach them up and then you're set. So it does have its advantages.

    Dude, that was a late 1980's thing. And blame unscrupulous New Yorkers for that. Our water is still chocolate but you don't see too much, actual tangible trash floating around anymore.....

    Ahh man, I hated the diapers.........couldn't stand seeing diapers in the water.....

    Shark Hunter you should move to New Jersey. Don't worry aboot needles, we got the juice.