Sopa/ pipa

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by @surfer, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    please don't ever vote.
     
  2. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

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    Jan 18, 2012
    ^haha

    No njsurfer next he is going to tell us he is running for president in upcoming elections :confused:
     

  3. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    so you all think this is not true? If so, you are all naive. Keep doing the things you all do, and when you make a miraculous difference, I will say "you're right, and I was wrong".
     
  4. spongedude

    spongedude Well-Known Member

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    Feb 28, 2010
    nattering nabobs of negativism....


    Then you're going to have to fess up with a big MEA CULPA because not only has public outcry made an impact in this situation (the primary legislators have vowed that they will continue, but they are now getting negative responses from their colleagues), but the public outcry against the banks when they wanted to impose fees on ATMs ended that policy that was going to be enacted by Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Chase, among others.

    The reality is that the individual can often feel hopeless and emasculated by the power of big money, as it seemed to be in this case because of all the media corporations pushing and paying the big bucks to get senators and congressmen to pass these restrictive bills. (They wanted to make it so they wouldn't have to sue each individual who illegally posted their material, and this was going to save them money and time… it was big media that was being lazy in this case…).

    It is easy (and I'm sure it feels cool) to be cynical, but the reality is when people speak up in numbers, it makes a big difference.

    one crisis at a time.....
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2012
  5. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    This entire issue is a result of laziness on the part of those in the intellectual property industry who support these bills--music companies, publishers, etc. They have lobbied these proposals in an attempt to change the way copyright law works and have the government perform a function that is legally their burden.

    Example: Any one person or entity's rights are only protected if they are exercised. If you don't exercise your rights you lose them--this is how it works. The burden of prosecuting and limiting pirating falls on the owners of intellectual property. It is their job to track their property and make sure it is not improperly used, although this can be costly and time consuming. So, in an effort to reduce their overhead, they have lobbied the government to do the legwork for them. This is Crony Capitalism in yet another form in that they are attempting to "privatize profits and socialize losses." As a free market capitalist myself, I am categorically opposed to this and my actions in opposing this are an effort to block the unintended consequences that would likely reach through many more industries in addition to the web.
     
  6. mOtion732

    mOtion732 Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2008
  7. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    exactly! &, as usual, superfish just doesn't get it.
     
  8. Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool

    Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool Well-Known Member

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    Aug 17, 2011
    The A.S.S. Association (Appalachian Surf Sliders) is vehemently opposed to this outrageous violation of our basic right of free speech. Erock is right. The increasing number of attempts by the powers that be to socialize and control society need to be checked. I called my congressman as well. I'm worried about what will be left for the kids.
     
  9. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

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    Jan 18, 2012
    Like I said before if this stuff passes places such as the swell info forums wouldn't exist. Links to "illegal" sites would cause them to get sued and potentially get the owners in a nice jail cell for a few years. I don't think they are willing to risk that for 1 loser who wants the screw them over.
     
  10. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

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    Jan 18, 2012
  11. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    yup! it's not a "win", but it's a huge step in the right direction.
     
  12. spongedude

    spongedude Well-Known Member

    301
    Feb 28, 2010
    uhhhh superfish?


    it's time....
     
  13. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    i was wrong. congrats to you all, especially njsurfer42!
     
  14. staystoked

    staystoked Well-Known Member

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    Dec 27, 2009
  15. super fish

    super fish Well-Known Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    hahahaha....truth
     
  16. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

    34
    Jan 18, 2012
    Now that is messed up. I never even thought of that....
     
  17. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

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    Jan 18, 2012
  18. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
  19. tropic surfer

    tropic surfer Well-Known Member

    181
    Dec 7, 2011
    Support for these bills is melting away and they may go nowhere.
    For the time being....
     
  20. tommyjohn

    tommyjohn Active Member

    34
    Jan 18, 2012
    Hopefully they never go anywhere haha