Soul Surfers vs. Punks and Crazy Locals

well spoken.

geuss it is just America, we're one big melting pot....

 

The more people there are in the line-up, the more of a chance that tempers flaring and fists flying. No one certain type of person surfs. "Punks" are everywhere. I'm not gonna argue what is or isn't punk, I'm sayin that there are so many varied types of people surfing it's not suprise. We laugh at kooks, shake our heads at aggro mother effers, and respect the locals ALWAYS! Accidents happen. We've all burned someone on accident, and have been burned for that matter.

The locals have earned the right for their pick of the set. Just sit back and get some scraps. You gotta earn that spot in the line-up.

 

might be ; there is defintely been a 1000% increase in the # people in the water. I remember back in the days you could paddle out in dbl overhead at a good spot and there would be 2 or 3 people out. Now it is more like 30

geuss a better reason for me to do that surf trip to some isolated place I've been dreaming of and planning for the last 10 years

 

I've yelled at plenty of people in the line up, never started any fights though. I've also been yelled at just as many though. The thing is, if someone REALLY effs up someone should let them know, but theres no need to be a douche about it.

 

yeah I couldn't agree more; to me it's a way of life! While I love the feeling I get after riding something like a good dbl or trpl overhead wave it doesn't really compare to the peace that surfing gives me. Just beeing out there and away from all the BS in the world is what I really love about it.

 

great mentality if only more people understood that. That's what the hawaiians were aiming at when they first paddled out and challenged mother nature.

 

No Worries in the OBX

I just got back from a great vacation in the OBX. I have been surfing for 20 years and have run into all types of people. In OC I cut off a woman by total accident in a crowd of about 125 people on 48th street and her old man threatened to beat me up while asking if I like to cut off women. What the? I have been yelled at by some dude at the Naval Jetty in 3 foot mush...I have watched one guy surf like he was in a contest at Belmar--he had to have every single wave...

That's why I love the OBX. There are 100 breaks per 1 break from Northern DE to Assateague...you just pick a spot and paddle out. This past week I started with Kyle and ended up surfing chest high from Monday through Friday...not a soul in sight--except the dolphins of course!

We just live in a "me" society is the bottom line. People are just all about themselves...locals, yahoos, kooks....it's rare to find people in the water who are just there to surf and have a great time....I'll stick with the OBX.

 

locals

Excellent insights re: OBX. The way it should be.

Overcrowding = pissed off people, in the water or out of the water.

I often surf Cabarete in the Dominican Republic. Shoot, you can't say boo to the local monkey boys, or you're gonna get pounded right there in the water. There's no lineup, it's 'their' point esp if you're a gringo (even if ya live there, like some of my bros), snaking is the way, and it's very much YOYO (you're on your own). Might be 6 -10 monkey boy locals out in a mob of 60 people ...but they do all the bull**** tactics & will go after you, violently, if you don't bow down.

It is what it is. I ain't no anthropologist, so no explanations forthcoming. No peace in the water there.

So I just surf it up on the second or third set waves, after they've all competed for the first wave. And nail all their women in the bars & on the beaches ...lol....

 

I don know WTF yankee is talking about? I've surfed in DR several times and Most of the offenders are the visiting surfers, like it is in most places the world over...You must respect the locals......plain and simple!!!! It's honkeys like yankee with thier "Monkey boy" mentality that get thier asses pounded in the line up......Surfing belongs to all of us, Punks, Rippers, Kooks, Soul surfers, Aggro's, Monkey Boys and yes even Honkeys like Yankkke..........Get over yourselves and just SURF!!!!!!!

 

nope

I don know WTF yankee is talking about? I've surfed in DR several times and Most of the offenders are the visiting surfers, like it is in most places the world over...You must respect the locals......plain and simple!!!! It's honkeys like yankee with thier "Monkey boy" mentality that get thier asses pounded in the line up......Surfing belongs to all of us, Punks, Rippers, Kooks, Soul surfers, Aggro's, Monkey Boys and yes even Honkeys like Yankkke..........Get over yourselves and just SURF!!!!!!!

Nope. Can't agree with you on the DR scene, such as it is. Been to the north coast of the DR over 20x during past 7 years. There's a WHOLE lot of push & shove in the water, metaphorically speaking, between locals & gringos, and that includes gringos who've lived there for years. It ain't just the usual turista-local friction. As the local gringos will tell you, if you listen, "we'll always be gringos in their eyes, no matter how long we're here or even if we marry a chica & raise kids here - - ya still a gringo in the local's eye." It is what it is.

As for the things that I mentioned in the lineup: facts.

As for the monkey boy term: it isn't even mine, I'm quoting locals from there, gringo locals, some of whom have lived there for over ten years & surf every day there & who marry DR chicas & raise brown-skinend babies. Down there, it's different, eh ?

Yes, surfing belongs to all of us. Agree on that one. My post was just illustrating the fact that locals in that part of the world do it one way, whereas the OBX experience that was posted sounds like a different, entirely different,way of localism. As in: ain't none.

BTW, dbiz, although you're entitled to your opinion, I ain't no 'honkey,'you might want to keep the pejoratives to yourself ... you understanding the issue takes you a lot further.

peace, out,

 

My dude it isn't the pushing and shoving in the water, it isn't the amount of people in the water it isnt the locals or the visitors it isn't about the the chicas it about the Monkey Boy comment that offended me the same way the Honkey comment offended you for that I apologize becaus the last thing I am is a bigot!! It's about ettiquete and the lack off which occurs everywhere!!!!!! I'am Dominican but raised in the USA and trust me they dislike me more there than they dislike you. Drop ins, fist fights, disrespect happens everywhere Encuentro to Oahu. The whole point is to surf and enjoy the ocean it belongs to all of us!!

 

apology

You make your point clearly, DBiz....I apologize to you. I was 'reporting' the scene there...I should have thought more on how this would be received in a different context (away from the actual scene).

The hostility in the water thing...so unnecessary....always a result of bad / no communication, just as most altercations are a result of bad / no communication.

People in the water who get mouthy are similar to the clowns who flip people off on the road...they need to remember that sometimes the consequences for these inflammatory actions can be dire....

I'm 6'2", 215, yah, I know what you're saying, he's the perfect size for surfing,
My background is varied, including Gold Gloves NYC (out of the old Gramercy Gym on 14th Street, yes I knew D'Amato) & now Krav Maga proponent...I always head the other way when people in the water get riled up, which is rarely at me, but sometimes a guy gets nutso towards other people out in the water.....sometimes it is difficult to just turn away from boorish jackasses...but, my reward for destroying some jackass would be 5+ years in a federal cage for felony assault & that just ain't what I have on my personal crystal ball....Walking away from words is a cliche, but the downside these days for pounding someone's nose & cheekbones into fragments just isn't worth it.

I can't really bear to imagine that the majority of surfers are out there to create problems, stress or tension. Heck, we paddle out to leave the ****heads & the aggro suits back in DC..... or wherever they reside.

Peace to you DBiz, and respect.

 

Respect!

No love lost Yankee!!! If we ever meet in Encentro we'll share the wave, beers and tostones!

 

Cabarete

Done.

C ya @ LAX...

 

Stick to the beach you grew up at or normally surf. If you go somewhere else show respect and you'll get waves (sometimes) The line ups are way to crowded these days. I find myself looking for places that no one surfs. The wave might not be as good but i get all the waves i want

 

That's original.