Spread Love, Not Hate

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by UnfurleD, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I think this sentiment sounds great but is often a big part of the problem at crowded locations. I'm going to sound like a jaded tool for saying this, but surfing respectfully around others involves following rules and making sacrifices. Lots of sacrifices that often DON'T bring excitement. Having the most fun and being an excited surfer in the lineup are ok until frothing over every wave and getting so excited you arent paying any attention to what is going on around you becomes a nuisance or worse.
     
  2. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

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    May 19, 2006
    I think there needs to be education before regulation. A lot of times, the beginners just don't know any better, regardless of their age. Sometimes a quick explanation of proper etiquette results in a nice thank you and a change in behavior. When it doesn't then that's where the regulation comes in. I hate to see it, but I know sometimes it's necessary. What really bothers me is when a talented surfer gets regulated off a peak just because the bros have never seen him before. Now, if he paddles out and starts grabbing every set wave, then that's a different story. But if he's respectful and waits his turn, then let the dude be FFS.
     

  3. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Its too far gone at this stage.
     
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  4. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    Yeah, I went up your way first on Sunday morning, saw what was happening in the water, and headed back to my break. It was a little smaller but not by much and there was NO ONE in the water anywhere near me. I've been going out in front of Wonderland when there's a swell during the week only. I guess Saturday (I wasn't around) was big enough to regulate.
     
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  5. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    I was there Sunday btw and it was still a shiite show
     
  6. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Before taller houses were built across the street I could look out at that ferris wheel from my bedroom window. It never used to be crowded in the winter.....hell even in the fall mid-week was empty other than dawn patrol and after work. These days we leave town to surf elsewhere to escape. I don't know if its the surf cams drawing people in, the bro-bra surf culture vibe or what but its gotten absurd. If I lived 15 minutes inland there is no way in hell I'd come to these spots to surf. As it stands now people who live here drive off the island to the spots these inlanders should be going to first. Pro-Tip: If you're on the AC Expressway and you go into Ocean City to surf you're doing it all wrong.
     
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  7. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    At this point in my surfing life, I will ALWAYS pass on a crowded spot for an empty one. That's the kind of sacrifice I make regularly. My regulating days are long over, so what happens at the crowded spots is now somebody else's problem. The younger locals who are the rippers now have earned the best waves at the best spots, but also the responsibility to regulate... if they choose to. Not saying they should or shouldn't... it's not a matter of right or wrong in my opinion. It's their spot now... guys my age have either quit or moved on. And I'm OK with that. So I don't care if it's a foot smaller at the empty sandbar down the road. I had my day. Let the guys who rip the hardest scrap it out for themselves. Or not.
     
  8. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Just sucks when the spots that have become a shit show are the ones right down the street from your house and where you've put your time in for decades.
     
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  9. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

    251
    May 19, 2006
    :( Yeah, I totally get that.
     
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  10. desandan

    desandan Well-Known Member

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    Feb 12, 2013
    crowds suck, never understood 50 dudes 1 peak. I'm fortunate to have plenty of empty peaks in my backyard. I agree with people needing to be more aware, surfing is a mindful sport but plenty of people without brains in the lineup
     
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  11. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

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    May 19, 2006
    What I find most interesting about this crowd discussion is that it seems the problem is worse on the east coast than the west, specifically for guys from VA Beach and north along the megapolis. I live about half way between LA and San Diego, so there are quite a few people in this area and I just don't find an issue with the crowds. Yeah, if I were to drive up to Trestles or down to Swami's or Blacks, there are going to be a good number of people there, but I can always seem to find a decent wave with few to no people on it. Even the lesser known spots don't really seem to get too crowed until Friday and the weekend. Even then, it seems like each spot has about a core group of 4 to 6 that are there every day and, depending on the spot, are welcoming or salty AF. I'm wondering if part of this is because of the consistency that we experience. If you don't surf today, there's always tomorrow. But back east, you have smaller windows of opportunity, so everybody and his brother has to hit the spot during the three hours that it's firing and then wait another two week or whatever for the next decent bump to come along. I don't think it's just because of the population density in the northeast. We are pretty dense here too. :)
     
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  12. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I've noticed exactly what you say every trip to California. When I go out there, I usually end up surfing at least a few sessions at the prime spots....windansea, blacks, trestles, swamis etc. Not because the other spots aren't breaking, but just because those waves are special and offer a really good wave even then the swell is sub-par. The crowd pressure is less than a good day in the Maryland/Delaware/New Jersey/Rhode island spots that I'm familiar with.

    I'm not saying trestles and swamis don't zoo out...I know they do...but come back a day or two later on a weekday afternoon with a bit of sea breeze. Most likely the wave will still be amazing, and my experience is you'll get a bunch of waves in a small lineup of people in no rush to get every set wave....because they know it will be the same the next day, and the next...
     
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  13. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    breezy mid afternoon Windansea a few years ago....3-4 foot fun waves with a few people all chilled out

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  14. sigmund

    sigmund Well-Known Member

    Dec 7, 2015
    I second this notion. I wish I had realized this many years past, I could have surfed 2 lifetimes by now. There's only 2 point breaks up here that work rarely, but when they do, it's worth the battle to score even just a couple of waves.
     
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  15. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

    251
    May 19, 2006
    I got married there three years ago. :)
     
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  16. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    For years I avoided travelling to California because I always read and heard about how crowded it was. Started going out there about 8 years ago. I go out every year now and surf the zone from Oceanside to Salt Creek. The crowds are so mellow compared to my home town. A crowded day at Lower Trestles is still more enjoyable with fewer hassles than what a typical day at the breaks within a short bicycle ride of my house have become.
     
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  17. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Those same conditions at the end of my street and there would be 30 people on it and it would be a total shit show......in fukking February when its 40 degrees.
     
  18. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

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    May 19, 2006
    Hit me up next time you come out!
     
  19. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    I've been doing this for well over a decade now.
     
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  20. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Same experience here, but I suppose it has a lot to do with where you go... some places being more localized than others.

    The worst session I had was actually Malibu... on a waist high day with very few people out. I got dropped in on by guys who got dropped in on, who got dropped in on, who got dropped in on...
     
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