Stormy

Campaign funding violations are essentially a speeding ticket that results in nothing more than a fine. I'm not saying these are violations, because no proof has been given that they are. But let's say they are. Given precedent, he should only get a fine and it is not "criminal", thus cannot be enough grounds for impeachment and the Dems know that and if they try to impeach him solely on those grounds they will lose and it it will hurt them politically.

 

Dude he's an admitted troll being obvious.

He brings nothing to this thread (or board) except cutting and pasting troll material from Twitter and Elite Daily and WaPo in his pooswah passive aggressive manner because he's still peepee hearted about a 2-year old election loss.

Don't ask his opinion, just body slam him

 

For the record...

President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign was fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for campaign reporting violations — one of the largest fees ever levied against a presidential campaign.

 

Agreed. Just saying that they are both proven liars on this exact topic

 

Please provide a link, so that it provides documented evidence here.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.36cb84a5003c

 

Well, that doesn't sound very good.

I wonder how hard the media investigated this, because this story seems unusually sanitized.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784

 

Nice try but Obama and McCain both paid fines for reporting late, both campaigns admitted to the error and paid the fine as soon as it was realized. Trump didn't report these and denied even making the payments for over a year. He was trying to hide it and got caught. If he wasn't he would have just fessed up to the payments when they first hit the news, paid the fine and been done with it. Not to mention the fact that the payments were made using a third party LLC (National Inquirer) and the money was was paid to them as retainers payments or payments for technical services. This shows an element of attempted cover up not present in any of Obama's violations.

 

Different lies for different reasons. If Trump cheated on his wife and paid hush money to keep it out of the media then you can't blame him for trying to keep it quiet to avoid embarrassing himself and his family. That's the whole point about paying the hush money. So when that agreement was not honored and they went public anyways he got caught in a lie.

That doesn't mean he committed a campaign fund violation. When you hire a lawyer to handle things for you, you expect him to do things lawfully, that's the whole point of hiring a lawyer in the first place. You trust that he'll do the right thing. If he doesn't do the right thing, that's on the lawyer, not you, the client.

Cohen / Mueller will have to prove with evidence that Trump instructed him to use campaign funds. If he did it without Trump's consent or prior knowledge, that's on Cohen, not Trump.

Why would Trump use campaign funds when he has an ungodly amount of money and can easily afford it out of his personal piggy bank? It doesn't add up to me. He would obviously want it to be discreet. Using campaign funds is not discreet. Gotta think about things like this guys...

 

Paying hush money is not a crime first of all, immoral maybe, but not illegal. Lying about it isn't a crime either, immoral, yes, but not illegal. There's no proof that I have seen that makes this a campaign fund violation. You have to show me hard evidence that the money came from campaign funds and that he himself directed Cohen to do it. If you don't have that evidence, then just STFU about it.

 

So because they admitted to the "error" and paid the fine as soon as they were CAUGHT, that makes it OK?

 

It shows he wasn't trying to cover it up. As is common is our history, a lot of the time the cover up, not the crime, is what brings you down.

 

He was audited and was caught red handled, WITH EVIDENCE! What's to cover up?

 

Your version seems kinda sanitized Kyle.

You, nor the source, explain exactly who the political donors (donor?) were whom contributed $2 mil to Obama within days of the election, nor the timing of that incoming $$$.

Furthermore, nobody has explained his failure to return $1.3 mil of his campaign money after the election, or if it was returned at all...the only $$$ mentioned is the $375k fine he paid.

Why wasn't this pursued as doggedly as others?

It just don't pass the sniff test, just like Trump.

 

For the record, I'm not "deflecting" lol.

Just drawing reasonable comparisons

 

He got caught and admitted the wrong doing and paid the fine. Trump was caught and denied ever paying the hoes, then changed his story to it wasn't with campaign contributions. The story keeps changing with him, tell tale sign of a cover up.

 

Sanitized it may be; but if there was anything to it, why didn't Republicans investigate after 2010? They held hearings for everything but not this. Seems to suggest to me there wasn't enough to get him on it. Trump situation seems to be a bit more damning imo.