Strong El Nino for Fall And Winter

Discussion in 'Weather and Surf Forecasting' started by fl.surfdog, Sep 10, 2015.

  1. fl.surfdog

    fl.surfdog Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2010
  2. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Amen brother! My honest opinion is the patterns are in flux, the base line has changed due to prolonged warm weather, warm sea surface temps and weird jet stream shifts. It's like figuring if the Dolphins will win more than 8 games this year....who know, I sure the hell hope so! Peace and waves bro!
     

  3. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    what affects does el nino have on noreastrs?
     
  4. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    well blasters, its like when your sister sees black dudes
    agitated and wet

    more noreasters and more snow


    this is going to be a stormy winter ala 2010, and then some
     
  5. Ronnie Mund

    Ronnie Mund Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2012
    Dew. Let's f\/ck some whores.
     
  6. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    Magic Seaweed's typically useless analysis on the El Nino impact on the US East Coast:

    With both cold winter polar conditions and an enhanced equatorial temperatures we see (all things being equal) a stronger, more southerly jet stream and stronger, larger winter storms creating westerly swell for Hawaii and the US East Coast.

    I guess head to your favorite west-facing break this winter. Idiots
     
  7. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Despite scientific advances, forecasting anything past the next 2 minutes is elusive. You are better off having a clean window to look out for weather predictions than any institutional forecast.
    Believing anything in SI, MSW, or surfline is a unfortunately a waste--their sole goal is to deliver us to advertisers, which is how they make money.
    Oh, maybe a Ouiji board works better.....
     
  8. 3rdperson

    3rdperson Well-Known Member

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    Mar 14, 2014
    I heard the Delaware river breaks at Trenton on a good south swell
     
  9. cjtst11

    cjtst11 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 1, 2010
    I read that stupid MSW "analysis" earlier this morning as well and couldn't tell if that "East Coast" bit was just ignorance or actually them being that dumb. Either way, they suck.
     
  10. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Naples Pier, "the Belmar of the Gulf" should be firing all winter! It's an East Coast west swell magnet.
     
  11. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    The information known about El Nino is pretty remarkable. They say a weak tropical season for Atlantic....which we are certainly seeing and stronger winter storms with a lower jet stream...which we hope to see.

    I like when the jet stream is lower and those Lows pop of the mid-Atlantic turning on better waves for most of the EC and PR. On the contrary, I hate when those lows/nor'easters run up and out over New England given most of the EC the Heisman
     
  12. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    It's the Polar Oscillation that determines the jet stream track . This from James Wieland, meteorologistand surf forecaster www.wptv.com/surfing

    So October might be slow. The winter season will see a lot of southern track storms, Cool and wet for Florida which means frequent storms rolling by, and frequent chances for swell. However, the NAO will still be the key factor. If it doesn't go negative this winter, that won't allow the full potential of the el nino surf season to be realized here. Having a negative NAO through the winter means all those big storms rolling through the south and east will move offshore, instead of just hugging the coast. This of course will allow for good groundswell generation through the winter. The past couple winters had mainly a positive NAO. Although the NAO can't really be predicted more than two weeks out, I've heard talks about comparing previous years like this year and having a negative AO and NAO. So we have that going for us. With the jet far south, this will also keep winter storms moving quickly. So we may see raging windchop one day, with a nice clean-up the next, then another one one the way. In other words, consistency.
    In general, it looks like winter will start slow, the really kick into gear January-March with well below normal temps and above normal rainfall expected for the southeast. Also el nino winters see more tornado activity in Florida January-April.
    After the winter, waves might continue into the summer.... I've researched the past 5 or so el nino years and found the Summer after the el nino is very active in the tropics. Good for wave, bad for getting hit.
    So all in all the extended forecast looks good for surf, we're just going to have to wait....especially us here in south Florida. At least summer is half over for us, before you know it it'll be November and we will be getting good surf and good weather!

    For more updates, Follow me on Twitter and Instagram for in the field and on the go updates: @surfnweatherman

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    NAO: (We're looking for it to be negative in the winter)
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    The Arctic Oscillation: (looking for negative in the winter)
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    The PNA (we are looking for this to be POSITIVE in the winter)
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  13. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    as a moron as diagnosed by barry, those squiggles sure are purdy
     
  14. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    nice SIS. Only part is the colder than normal temps....which should not bother you much huh?
     
  15. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    All hail the mighty Gulfstream Current!
     
  16. RyanD

    RyanD Active Member

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    May 23, 2014
    Originally Posted by scotty

    Magic Seaweed's typically useless analysis on the El Nino impact on the US East Coast:

    With both cold winter polar conditions and an enhanced equatorial temperatures we see (all things being equal) a stronger, more southerly jet stream and stronger, larger winter storms creating westerly swell for Hawaii and the US East Coast.

    I guess head to your favorite west-facing break this winter. Idiots


    Think PR and Cane Garden dude. Let's hope for a good winter!
     
  17. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    I think you're right FLSURFDOG. Makes sense to me. BTW the navy is still tracking remnants of Grace. Conditions may be conducive in carribean and gulf to fire it up.
     
  18. fl.surfdog

    fl.surfdog Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2010
    Ya know Betty and sisurfdogg, ive been in the hunt for a long time, but I do believe that the E.C. is going to have a better than average winter this season....fingers crossed.
    Betty got a new board being made as we speak....haha.....stoked.
     
  19. GODSxMOONBEAN

    GODSxMOONBEAN Well-Known Member

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    Jun 30, 2014
    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't el nino cause above average temperatures in the northeast? Whats with all this talk about a cold snowy winter in the the north east?
     
  20. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest



    Shhhhhh!! Don't clutter their brains with facts; they find them painful.