Honestly didn't read everything you wrote. First few lines said it all. Game winning drive, defense not on the field. Correct. But look up how many points the D let up in the second half of those games..... allowing for the game winning drive. Not saying he's a bad quarterback. Just saying these things matter. Where as rodgers had (and may still have.i don't know) the best passer rating in NFL HISTORY. Somthing that the D has no part in. Plus he never got caught cheating. People tend to forget that when talking about him being goat.