Surfers versus Surf Fishers

Discussion in 'West Florida' started by Float, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. Float

    Float New Member

    2
    Jul 26, 2013
    Hello everyone,

    I am new to the forum and to surfing in Florida, and surfing in general. I was out at towers this week and saw the Bilabong van with many new surfers which was very awesome! The beach I was at was crowded too. A guy came up no less than 20' from where we were in the water and started fishing...

    When I lived in Hawaii, I never came across surf fishers so I don't want to jump to conclusions.

    What is the etiquette between surfing and fishing?

    Mind you, I was only body boarding because I was with my better half, but we had to move way down the beach to get away from this guy.

    Mahalo!
     
  2. GreenFlash35

    GreenFlash35 Well-Known Member

    159
    Jan 5, 2011
    If i see a fisherman. Its off with the leash.
     

  3. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    It's just like any where else, give each other some respect and some room. Sounds like this guy just didn't care who was out there. But, you did say the beach was crowded, so unfortunately this is what you deal with. In DE they have swimming areas and then they have surfing/fishing areas. Anyway, welcome to the mainland and good luck!
     
  4. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    I got hooked surfing in croatan one morning. I was the only surfer in sight and he comes up and fishes right on top of me. I guess he was renting the house out front? Still, come on man, give a brother some room. Anyways, I paddle in, STILL HOOKED, and this guy gets all "oh my god are you alright? How did that even happen?"... They ain't the brightest bunch. At least he was apologetic, because my intention was to stab him with his own filet knife when I first paddled in. Go back to Hawaii ASAP. Take me with you.

    Edit, oh yeah, that junk hurt. Ripped up the webbing between two of my toes, I swear I'm a slower swimmer now...
     
  5. Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

    538
    Dec 26, 2009
    Be nice or you'll get hooked.
     
  6. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Definitely a pisser,who the frigg want's to be around someone who isn't considerate. You did the right thing. Always best to move on .
     
  7. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Yep, happens all the time in NC. Many times I have surfed across their lines. My advice is make a butt load of noise and do anything you can to make that spot less fishable and they should move.
     
  8. DrDarkMatter

    DrDarkMatter Active Member

    25
    May 5, 2013
    This is a great topic. This happens to me frequently during the summer and really pisses me off. Not to long ago I was out surfing a right off the rock jetty and I was the only person in the water. This guy strolls up with all his gear and throws a line out right on top off me. I realize he wanted to fish beside the rocks, but there are like 7 rock jetties here. I just continually gave him a eat s**t look and finally flipped him the bird before paddling off to the next peak. I don't understand how you throw cut bait out where people are swimming, freaking crazy!
     
  9. bungalowparkbob

    bungalowparkbob Well-Known Member

    204
    Jan 21, 2013
    Almost nothing makes me angrier than weighted lines with hooks on the end intentionally thrown in my direction. It's a ***** because often there are holes near a good sandbar that a real fisherman will sniff out. But most of the time it's just some asshole looking for confrontation. They find it to the tune of a cut line and beach stand-off if they toss at me or a group I'm surfing near. It's happened a handful of times and thankfully never come to blows. The fisherman always ends up backing down. I learned the hard way not to break the line with my hands. Sliced into my fingers pretty good, but I certainly wasn't going to let that guy reel that hook past me once I grabbed the line! The back of a skeg works well, or teeth if you're quick about it.

    I strive for mutual respect though and will address them first if I have the chance to explain why we surf where we do. We usually catch a whole lot more waves than they do fish too...
     
  10. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

    811
    Jun 6, 2012
    Ain't that the truth. I have no problems with surf fishing and if you do, please be conscious about those around you. I watched some assclown post up around noon on the Fourth. Needless to say, the beach was packed. He broke out two rods and started going to town on the cigs. About 30 minutes later, a kid was hooked and the guy showed no remorse at all. The kid's mom got right up in his face and the only thing the fisherman could say was "didn't you see me fishing here?" She fired right back with the obvious - "We've been here all morning and you casted out into a crowd of people. What did you think was going to happen?"

    Happy Friday ya'll
     
  11. Don Ride

    Don Ride Well-Known Member

    73
    Apr 2, 2009
    I broke a guy's rod in NC, I don't think he had his drag set properly.:cool:
     
  12. tuggernuts

    tuggernuts Active Member

    30
    Apr 30, 2013
    I live in NJ and the fall and spring striper run usually coincides with decent surf. So you get more fisherman and more surfers in the water. I stick to the idea of first come, first served. if a guy is fishing a jetty, dont paddle out there and ask for it. And if you are out there surfing, and guy comes up and starts throwing line your way, say something, most guys will move. if continues can cut his line on your fin. just like surfing, there are kooks in fishing too. most good guys know if you are surfing there, chances are fish are gone.
     
  13. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Part of the Golden Rule.


    There are asshats on both sides--like the aforementioned one in CB. Where were the lifeguards on that one!?!?!?
     
  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Bout two months ago I was surfing DP by Cocoa Pier, was first on the beach, sun wasn't even up yet, paddled out, was having a blast, then a few others joined me as it became light, and then a couple dudes stroll up with their gear, and start fishing from shore, RIGHT NEXT to the pier, rather than ON IT, which is what the pier was designed for I thought, guess they were too poor to pay to get on.

    I have no issues with people fishing from ON the pier, that's to be expected and I don't mess with those guys, and they don't mess with us either (usually) but right next to it where I and others are surfing? Not only was I there first, but so were others, and it wasn't even crowded yet, it was an empty beach. So these j-offs kept casting right at us. I knew it was just a matter of time, and sure enough as I'm paddling back out from catching a wave I get a tug on my leash, yep, hooked, luckily not in my foot, or else I would have gone ape sh*t on these two, they wouldn't have stood a chance, but rather than make a scene and possibly get carted away in a police car, I let it go, since no "real damage" had been done.

    Just use common sense fisher dudes, I too love to catch a fish, but youse guys never catch SH*T! NOTHING, NADA! Take your Ugly Stick and find a open spot with no swimmers or surfers, and you'll accomplish the exact same thing.
     
  15. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    What pi$$es me off even more is when I find baseball size wads of fishing line on the beach or jetty complete w/ hooks/floats whatever. We should all clean up after ourselves and if I ever catch anyone doing that sh*t I'll be sure to say something. That makes me angrier than getting hooked.
     
  16. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    What about surfers vs fisherman cyclists? Those guys are the worst.
     
  17. OC&SC-83

    OC&SC-83 Well-Known Member

    78
    Jul 25, 2011
    Float, good question man.

    Fortunatley never have to deal with this in SC (to many rivers, saltwater marshes, creeks etc.).
    But did have to a lot during summer in Maryland. I would always just paddle away. But one day it happened for the third time in one week, and I was in too good of a spot. So I paddled in (FURIOUS), and I intentionally - very calmly said "Sir, can I ask why you casted right in my direction instead of a little further down the beach?" After he had noticed me walking directly towards him he was definitley a little surprised at my tone. He said "You know what, you're right man! I'm sorry dude!" and moved.
    Guaranteed if I had said "What the F*CK??" He'd have just been like "that surfer was an asshole."
    You do it nice, that way, THEY feel like the asshole. You're welcome.
     
  18. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011

    Yep, that $hit makes me see red.
     
  19. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    It used to happen alot, but the surfers via Surfrider Foundation made peace with the pier fishermen by putting a sign up at a certain point as you paddle out that says now you must get away from the pier by a certain number of yards. They used to cast at us, hook us and cheer. Then they would get themselves and their gear thrown off the pier. Those days are over.

    It is still prevalent in the preserve, these aggro kook fishing folk. Now that Florida is a stand your ground state, it is my prediction someone will get shot, and the triggerman will go free. Don't bring a surfboard to a gun fight. It is not worth it. Ask respectfully for the offender to move if you were there first. If they do not comply, let it go. But,if they cast at my wife or kid, its on like donkey kong! Better to be tried by 12 than carried by six. And they never do catch any fish, the jerkbags.