now i am confused ok- I think i will not have my boy circumsized I guess God or nature put it there for a reason and we don't live in a waterless desert like the olden day wondering semites.
Dude.... Go to talk to some physicians and do some medical research... And then weigh out your options. Its a valid question that I dont think a lot of parents think about very much, but medical advice on your son, I think your asking in the wrong place!
Yes- God made man that way, but God also commanded man to be circumcised (Genesis 17) as a covenant with Himself. When God sets standards or rules for us to live by (ie- 10 commandments to begin with...) - its best to follow them even when we don't know/understand why. God gave us these because He knows whats best for us. And ultimately to show us how short we fall from His standard of perfection on a daily bases-breaking our fellowship with Him when we fall short- thus our need for a Savior.
yeah just to expand on this, god didn't make a perfect world but rather a 'perfectible' one. our job here is to turn the darkness into light. So to say you will leave your foreskin the way god intended it to be is false. to the contrary, everything we enjoy in this world is improved by human intervention. god gives the ingredients but we must make the food. god provides waves but we must make the surfboards. human activity is essential to improving the world. the whole idea of circumcision and the covenant is to remind us that if we want to repair the world, we must start by repairing ourselves....but if your not into the spiritual stuff at least do it for the health concerns.
hahaha im sorry but this thread is great. probably not the right forum for this but still entertaining nonetheless. As for my opinion, cut it man. could be complications for him later on in life that would be unnecessary otherwise. I sure wouldn't want that for my kid.
Supposedly right near the pee hole, lol! They also told him that they recomend he get circumsized now to avoid further complications. He read up about how painfull that was when you are an adult and decided against it. He said he would have rather had it done when he was a baby and have no memory of it now. I guess it was just too traumatizing to think about going through it as an adult.
Not to cause any arguments...to expand on my own post... but just because I feel something or think something, does not always make it true. We can often be mislead by our feelings without facts and truths. If I say that a penny is a color blue, it may make me happy and feel good, but its far from the truth. If I think that I will be able to just jump off a building and fly- and it will happen since I believe it will happen, either way the Law of Gravity will take effect, and you will fall.Just stating basic facts from the Bible. A bit of a history lesson: Circumcision was first started as a Covenant between God and Abraham. It was meant to be a sign of an agreement between God and Abraham as it is stated in Genesis 17, God would make Abraham the father of many nations, which God did. Abraham was to keep Gods covenant. Later on we read that we cannot keep Gods covenant and Law, since we have all fallen short, we have all broken at least one of the 10 commandments, we have all told a lie, stolen something that did not belong to us, made idols other than God...(3 out of 10) We are not perfect, but God is. We can not stand before God or come into His presents since we have fallen short of His standard, perfection. We need a way to be forgiven of falling short. We cannot make it to heaven on our own. In the Old Testament, they would sacrifice animals to cover all their short falls from perfection, but we are told that the blood of bulls and goats never really take away all our sin. This is why we need a Savior. This is why Jesus came from heaven to earth to live the perfect life that we could not. Then He went to the cross to be the ultimate sacrifice and to take our sins on the cross and give us His righteousness so that we could enter heaven on the day we die. This is all done by faith: if you confess your sin, believe that He did this for you and turn from your own ways to follow Him. Thus this is spiritual circumcision- "circumcision of the heart" as stated in Deuteronomy 30:6, Romans 2:17-29 and other places in the Bible. The cutting away of the 'dirty' part of your heart by God. Similar to the physical, Circumcision of your dong, cutting away the dirty part. Doing the physical won't get you into heaven, but you will be cleaner... ok ok... now back to surfing.... shouldn't we talking about surfing on a surfing forum????
can this forum post cease existence Mr. Swellinfo? Please? The apple has fallen very far from the tree in the past few years
religion is like having a big dong.. if you've got one, i'm stoked for you.. but don't throw it in my face, and don't try to ram it down my throat. this thread didn't need to involve religion, it was funny and educational at the same time. its not fun anymore.
Very good point, ragdolling. Unless you've surfed with AND without a foreskin you are in no position to claim that circumcision is not directly related to one's surfing performance.
I knew a dude nicknamed 'skinner' in middle school. poor guy, wasnt his fault. I'm sure if your not a dirtball, you can be healthy either way, unfortunately vanity fuels conformity, especially for kids. On a religious note.. Imagine how bad it would suck if waves weren't created by pressure fluctuations, but instead by magical ghosts in peoples heads!
just a little off the top..... sigh... to begin with, unless you are muslim or jewish, you will be in the minority (worlwide, especially europe or any america except usa) if you circumcise your son. even in the US, rates have been dropping and now hover around 50% (from 80 % or more in the 50's and 60's). further, if cleanliness is your objective, i am sure you will also circumcise your daughter, as that labia (and clitoris) are completely unnecessary and are super dirty...right momma? in the US, circumcision was encouraged especially in the 50's and 60's because they believed uncut men masturbated more. do some research. your child will not live in your world. he or she will live in a world that is far more global and much more aware of different cultural practices and rules. further, it is possible, trends being what they are, that your kid with the cut member will be the odd man out. finally, ask yourself a question...after perusing trends and attitudes on this site, did you really expect people as concerned about image (as many are here) to give you a medically sound response that wasn't based on their limited vision of conformity? do some research and decide if information about cleanliness and the benefits of sensation outweigh the likelihood some d-bag will laugh at yer kid's d!ck. aloha
