I am tired of people getting annoyed at me even though they are the ones not following proper etiquette, and what is frustrating is they are out all the time and you would expect them to know the rules. Here is a link everyone should read and understand -even if you think you are an "expert." http://www.surfinghandbook.com/knowledge/surfing-etiquette/
this is a situation that can not be fixed unless people are willing to wolfpack the breaks they surf at.
#7, the wave hog, is the one I see most often. Someone who constantly tries to paddle inside of everyone and take priority rather than waiting their turn. That occasionally results in the deserved #2, the blatant drop in, by someone annoyed at the perpetrator of #7. The other day I saw a #2 by someone who very blatantly didn't even care enough to check behind him. Sometimes I see a #2 and the perpetrator gets mad at the surfer with priority behind him. That blows my mind. Paddlers always should do their best to avoid #3, but sometimes it just happens too fast to avoid. Give the perp a freebee on the first one, but after that it's worth mentioning to them.
You are right on! You must have been at the same beach, this is exactly what happened to me - and I was up first. He claimed I paddled toward the peak in front of him (didnt happen, I literally turned and paddled in the wave) when actually he paddled away from the jetty behind me to go more on the shoulder. I actually stayed away from the jetty to avoid dealing with this behavior. Also, fell a victim of #3 where someone said "that was close" after I did a floater over him (before the wave crashed on him) instead of a bottom turn around (which would have ruined the wave), he should have paddled away from me instead of sitting on the inside. P.S. the guy that dropped in continously neglects #5/#7, which apparently is ok for him to do.
^Or the guy who paddles around OUTSIDE of everyone-sitting on the peak- rather then waiting their turn. Im really tired of the guys that continually paddle around everyone else to the peak, totally disregarding the lineup, fighting for the peak and generally acting as if they are 'locals' when they are not. I would consider this a wave hog- not respecting the lineup and respectively deserving a #2. Everyone should read this link about surfing etiquette and apply it to themselves, not others! Give respect to gain respect- the most basic rule in the book...
Bingo! After you get your wave, you go to the back of the line. You don't paddle right back to the peak looking to take the next wave or worse, get in the way of the next person in line. I'm convinced that 90% of the population has no consideration for other people.
Just to throw this out there... The best wave I had last swell (Tuesday? Wednesday?) was one an old head GAVE me. He was in position, turned around to go, saw me... and gave me the go. He was on a longboard and had the paddling advantage. Got more waves than his share that day, for sure. He was starting to pi$$ me off, but when he gave me that wave, all was forgiven. I remember that I got a nice barrel, but other than that, I don't even remember the wave. I remember the guy who gave it to me, though... made my day. I like to think it was just good karma, because I try to give a good set wave to somebody less skilled once a session.
That sounds like fantasy land or Sweden. Your in America bro, we are descendants of settlers that came and took what they wanted...
We also evolved from monkeys, so should we go back to throwing our feces at each other... oh wait, some of us still do.
Same here, a SUP'er let me take the wave of the day (at least for me). I gave him props when I paddled back out. I know it gets crowded/tense out sometimes but doing something like that every once in a while can at least keep a good vibe out there.
Rule #1 right of way states:A-Frames or Split Peaks: If two surfers are on either side of the peak, they each have the right of way to take off on their respective sides. It’s not generally accepted to take off behind the peak unless there’s nobody on the other side". Really? I was out the other day at an A framing spot and sitting pretty deep or so i thought. Both sides of the peak were doing it but the left was way better. this guy paddled out and sat even deeper than me which was way behind the peak. When he took off and went left I thought no way he makes that( but I didn't drop in) and waited to see how crushed he got. The sucker took off and turned into a barrel and made it! He wasn't being a hog and we all got turns but he continued to make waves which got me and a few other guys to sit as deep as him and I got into, and made it out off some deep shacks. as long as your not being a snake or a hog sit where you want.
Id rather use my animal instincts in the water and have fun then be thinking about common sense rules and getting upset when other people don't follow your communist laws...
This isn't six flags...... I dont see any lines. If you cant keep up with the current then.. Well thats your problem. Wait your turn! What do you work at a water park at the water slide as a lifeguard? "okay you can go"... Hahahahahah
Animal instincts? What, like survival? Seems to me that safety rules would heighten the possibility of surviving each session. Also, there are many animals who consider the well-being of the group (eg. wolves) beyond their own well-being, if only because it makes survival (and the chance to thrive) more likely for all involved. I'd say that a bit of communist -- oops, I mean common -- sense would prove both examples true in the water, as well.
order me a wahh burger and some french cries...this subject has been drawn out and expressed over and over again. If you have something to add, use the search button and add it to the old thread.
what he said. all the crying and wishing isn't going to change the fact that people are rarely going to give up waves especially when its good. this 'wait your turn' bullsh!t is made up by guys who are out of shape and can't paddle against the current to get in the best position. if you cant hack it, exercise the ULTIMATE form of etiquette and don't paddle out at the best breaks.
Since this site is very responsible for the new influx of weekend warriors planning sick days 5 days in advance, and thus crowding the line ups of usually quite beach towns on weekday mornings, I find it ironic (almost as ironic as my intent and purpose in writing this on the site itself that there is a discussion on etiquette here. But, never the less, here's an option/thought that people aren't considering. NO ONE pays to access our beaches (currently) and most likely, surfers sneak on when in season. SO, why the hell do all "intermediate" surfers think they deserve to brought into the fold at some beach break they've started to surf in the last couple years or months? If they are locals, then they should have a rapport with the guys paddling for said jetty and should be able to say, "hey, knock it off- let me play too." However, why the hell do they even deserve to say that? Why should they be brought into the fold? Because they paid for a wetsuit, board and Thule rack system? Because this didn't happen to them during their high school wrestling years? Surfing has changed. And it's because consumer america and sites such as Swellinfo allow and enable people to think they deserve it ALL. Wait your turn? How about, go find another wave. One of lesser quality. Because, most likely, you deserve that one. PS. I created my log-in name for this one time post. I love my town, my spot, my time spent devoting my life to surfing. I hate Swellinfo and feel sad and sometimes angry for the fools that feel let down when that forecast ****s the bed. Never! is it the swell's fault. Remember that. It's the site's fault. And it's your fault for trusting this site. Enjoy the process, not the outcome. Buoys, wind, tide = 24/7/365. Look at the ocean. Can't? Take up bowling. We don't want you. Those that disagree, retort, rolls their eyes, hail for equality and the common good for all- sure, you got points. But surfing is not like the rest of world, the rest of society. It's different (for A LOT) of different reasons. And that's why you too got into it. You wanted to be different. So why are you now wanting it to be for everyone? Those that agree, take arms, take one and take all, take it back. Take your spot, your jetty, take it all. And then get more of you together and keep it alive. Tell others, make bumper stickers, make shirts. In a small town in Monmouth County, we are. And the summer of 2012 is going to be much different because of it. I hope this finds you all well, and I hope you understand (on either side) that we've hit a serious crossroads in surfing. Just make sure you take the right turn or you might find yourself in a bad situation further down the road.
It is indicative of society that in tense and crowded situations where resources are limited (a majority) of the crowd will attempt to take what they want at the expense of others if there are no consequences. Not saying its right but that's life.
