7pages of of recycled dribble. Delsurf.com has a similar thread i suspect. And I know for sure SurfingOC.com had one as well, (multiple) since I milked the snot out of it for page hits. as far as i am concerned, if you moved into the area after 1995, you can just shut up, or move back across the bay or where ever else you came from. and that goes double for all the kooks who claim AI as there break or even talk about it.
Seriously. Etiquette does not equal rules, does not equal laws. They're guidelines. If you're having trouble getting waves, either grow some balls, move down the beach, or take up golf. I hear they have guys they pay to drive around on carts to enforce their rules.
Life's too short To all the wave hogs, waves are free and there are plenty more for all of us to enjoy. don't be that guy!!
AI is a fun place to surf on the right day and everyone's guaranteed waves. What's wrong with enjoying surfing there? I'd be interested to hear a non-dribble-filled statement about it.
#5  don't apply to locals...just don't. Go to any Indo, Micro, Melo, or Polynesia set up and try to claim these rules. You will be shamed ....or bleed.
"AI is a fun place to surf on the right day and everyone's guaranteed waves. What's wrong with enjoying surfing there? I'd be interested to hear a non-dribble-filled statement about it." nothing wrong with AI,....I grew up surfing it. plenty of space for sure. most likely a saving grace for intown OC, over the last decade and a half. ... seemed as if there was always a knee/waist high waves (i was shorter then and much much younger) due to the sand bars being so freaking good!!! A little scary though, with those sand bars soooo far out, we figured if there were sharks anywhere it was there... Anyway,.. gets so old, those speaking of it like they do. .... AI was empty as in No one, at least not surfing really. Best spot we ever found was actually on the State side, down a ways close to fed section, but out in front of the state camping (area/s), trust me it was obvious where this spot was. ok so i took a trip down memory road. Enjoy AI. so how did I do?
Guilty as charged. As a regular footer whose lived in LBI, AC, and the Rockaways, I'm addicted to Waverly Rights.
Guilty as charged. As a regular footer whose lived in LBI, AC, and the Rockaways, I'm addicted to Waverly Rights.
First of all, one simple rule should apply, as it should for everyone else and everywhere else in life....'do onto others as you would want them to do onto you. IMHO Second, and I am not knocking you SoMoCo-you make some good points...and we live in two completely different places...So I do not know how bad it is where you are. However, when it comes down to it, were any of us at the origins of surfing? No. 'So why are you now wanting it to be for everyone?' We were all part of the everyone else group at one point. Granted there are people, and always will be, who get into surfing because they think it makes them look 'cool' and whatnot. When it comes down to it though, it's about having fun, sliding waves...forgetting the drama from land...the problems...
Im glad the post got this much attention because you really get an understanding of what kind of people are out there in the lineup and things make more sense. I think the problem is a lot of people were not taught proper etiquette before, therefore it is falling by the wayside for the majority of modern day surfers. Even though I am a modern day surfer I guess I am not following the new "rules" which is - there are no rules, no etiquette, and no care for other people. Maybe it is because I enjoy surfing for various reasons where others simply like the competition of pretending they are on the world tour and therefore must drop in, snake, paddle around everyone in the lineup in order to "win their heat" (when they are not that good). If I am out with someone that is clearly better than I am I will gladly continue to be passive on waves, except these people are the ones that are generous and aren't wave hogs - which I find the most interesting. In my opinion the people that know how the surf have proper etiquette, not the other way around!
Everyone who's ever surfed has dropped in on someone usually by accident. A simple sorry will usually take care of it. Often it's a judgement call if you think someone is to far back. A good surfer can often make a wave while someone with less abillity wont. It can be easy to be a wave hog on a longboard when you can easily get wave position and I have been guilty of that. A good short boarder can school the lineup also. Sometimes you just have to paddle down the beach...
Too bad Waverly got all shifted up since Irene hit.....just hasn't been the same. Plus now North's even more crowded...