SwellInfo vs Surfline

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by Average Joe, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. Average Joe

    Average Joe Well-Known Member

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    Jun 18, 2014
    Haven't made up my mind which site is my "go to" tool for forecasting. I'd like to think a person can make better judgments about the swell forecast than a computer, but tomorrow will be an interesting test. Below is an excerpt from the Surfline NJ summary:

    "Low pressure that pushed offshore earlier in the work week has interacted with high pressure over the Labrador Sea setting up an area of satellite observed 25-30kt+ E/ENE winds south of Newfoundland. We have also observed 15' seas within this fetch. Observations upstream indicate that this swell is a little underdone in the models, so we will nudge number up a little over guidance. This fetch will send a pulse of ENE swell to the region that will start to mix in this PM but mainly overnight into Saturday.

    ESE/SE swell from the tropics will continue to mix in with E/ENE swell Saturday keeping 2-3'+ surf in the water for standouts. Top spots likely see some bigger peaks around the chest/chest+ zone. This will start to ease some late day."

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    well...that's a narrative of the meteorology...there is an ocean storm up near Newfoundland that is forecast to push some ENE swell back, and there is some interaction between tropical activity and Bermuda High pointing some fetch at the Mid Atlantic from the SE. Surfline gives you that, and SI gives you other things...

    Why do you need one "go to" site for forecasting? You will always be better off taking advantage of the numerous tools that are out there, seeing which ones work for your spots in different conditions, and blending it all together into your own assessment of the situation.
     

  3. JawnDoeski

    JawnDoeski Well-Known Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    SI has all the data points in one spot for you to decipher yourself dawg

    I will say I'm expecting my favorite New Jerseyian wave will be alive tomorrow

    Just stay in Belamr though...that's where all the rippaz surf anyways bruh
     
  4. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    average joe, that is proprietary info and shouldn't be re-posted without surfline's consent
     
  5. Average Joe

    Average Joe Well-Known Member

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    Jun 18, 2014
    "go to" means if surfline says it will be chest high + and swell info says waist, which one will be more accurate? Surfline adds the human analysis of the data points that swell info provides. tell me where I would go on the swell info site to come to my own conclusion on the fetch of this storm in the north atlantic?
     
  6. LazyE

    LazyE Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2014
    Go to beach look at waves. Never leave Belmar. You're welcome
     
  7. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    What Mitchell said, actually.

    And, stay in Belmar by all means.
     
  8. Average Joe

    Average Joe Well-Known Member

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    Jun 18, 2014
    should have known this thread would be taken over with the usual nonsense.
     
  9. World B Free

    World B Free Well-Known Member

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    Feb 7, 2013
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  10. LazyE

    LazyE Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2014
    My "go to tool" is barrycuda. He knows everything.

    Seriously, don't over think it go to the beach and check visually. Can't tell you how many times I've caught fun waves practically empty because the report was off. Does Belmar have surf cams?
     
  11. M.R.gnar28

    M.R.gnar28 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 30, 2012
    Surfline = West Coast
    Swellinfo = East Coast

    When in doubt check the buoys, tides and local winds. That's all the info you'll ever need
     
  12. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Thank you, so is yours.

    #9/12

    WBF! I likey.
     
  13. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I'm not sure you really can....SI and SL are basically swell forecasting sites, not places to get meteorological data.

    If you really want to assess the meteorology, and come to your own conclusions about fetch, start here for the buoy data:

    http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/rmd.shtml

    and here for the ocean wind and swell models:

    http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/waves/viewer.shtml?-multi_1-latest-hs-NW_atlantic-

    If you poke around in the second link, you can find wind maps which pretty clearly show the North Atlantic fetch (IMO really far out and not very potent looking) pointed back towards us that surfline is talking about:

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  14. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    So, should I surf in the morning or not? lol
     
  15. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Definitely....the only question is where....with a full moon high tide at 8 a.m. but west wind, and onshore wind predicted to come up by noon.
     
  16. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Dudebrah, you're from Belmar. What did you expect? Try dabuh.com for the real scoop.
     
  17. Zeroevol

    Zeroevol Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2009
    Hhhmm, decisions, decisions
     
  18. JawnDoeski

    JawnDoeski Well-Known Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    Dang Mitchell giving the tricks of the trade on this here surf predictin' website

    Hey can you take my pictures Mitchell...make me look all pretty like the French girls Mitchell

    Nah but in all seriousness Mitchell is probably the raddest or baddest dude on here

    Get on that mid tide hustle bruhs
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Both sites suck, frankly. Little difference between the two. One is usually wrong on one forecast, the other is usually wrong on the other forecast.
    Go to NOAA. Use their data to your location to the best of your interpretive skills. You will then be wiser, more knowledgeable than 99.9% of the moronic surfers you hang out with. They will revere you as a god, simply because they are such morons!!! Go for it!!
     
  20. 34thStreetSurfing

    34thStreetSurfing Well-Known Member

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    Aug 13, 2009
    Check surfline, check swellinfo, check magicseaweed. Drive to beach. Check surf. Repeat.

    Boom, you've just found the most accurate prediction site.