so i tried to sign up for health insurance the other day, and for the funk of it decided to see how'd i do if i was broke AF.. and i mean AF... so in the fields stating the income ...i put 15k annual... with mrs towelle bringing some extra income into the househeld. got denied...not qualified for healthcare assistance... make too much.. a plan i was given as an option starts at 350/mo ... just for meself. alone. thats 4200 annually... or 700 penalty for not obliging. thats 15k - 4200 = (someone check my math on this) 10,800 of $ i gets to keep.. a year... rent is lets say 1.5k/mo (try to find cheaper, in the citay) so... i mean...how?
Thank you Mr. Obama for giving: 10. Ayers a ludicrous biography to write, and nightmares regarding another individual's father 9. Lessons in forging birth certificates and resumes 8. The U.S. seven additional states 7. The Canadians a "President" 6. The "Austrian" language 5. Renaming Islas Malvina, "Maldives" 4. Teleprompter hijacking skills 3. More terrorists 2. The "how to guide" on acquiring a job at an unimpressive law firm, and then trying no cases 1. A "First Man"... I may prepare another Top Ten, while you ladies fuss at one another and pretend to follow politics.
If you were to place four of me, side by side, behind Hillary, you still would not be able to see me!
Probably, and much worse! I personally would not get anywhere near her, and I also thank Mr. Obama that she lost!
miss piggy have you ever surfed? why are you here on a surfing fourume? are you going to post again regarding people s/b paying 4% to have their money managed, you ignorant asshat
Here's what I know about health care, premiums were rising at a consistent rate well before Obamacare, during Obamacare, and will continue well after Obamacare until Congress sits down together and addresses cost containment, and boy, I don't see that happening, so assume more of the same.
im all for a free market world however imo the core problem with healthcare is the runaway costs, there is no one that is even monitoring what they charges and saying ahem $25 for one Tylenol pill at a hospital is not only price gouging but downright criminal.. but yet we have a whole agency,irs, monitoring how much people make the rub is healthcare isn't a desire,,it is a fundamental need to exist, or rather exist longer than normal...it isn't like your at a grocery store and say hmm I don't wanna pay $2 for that soda
The Tylenol charge is due to the fact that Insurance companies will pay that--there is no fight back, which they should. That is NOT pharma companies doing--they sell Tylenol to hospitals a few dollars per jugs of 1000 capsules. The hospitals have made their inpatient pharmacies a "profit center". Once they learned the concept of "profit centers", they then applied same concept to MRI, CAT, centers etc. In Turkey, hospitals charge $79 for CAT scan, same machine, and equally educated MDs reading results, etc. Look to hospital administrators and what their income is--far exceeds even most MDs income. Administrators have a 4 year education. MDs have minimum of 12 now a days. BTW, products from pharmaceutical companies keep patients OUT of the hospital (statins prevent Heart attacks, etc). Hospital administrators HATE pharma companies.
yea im not rippin pharma just think someone needs to look into the rampany out of control costs...if costs were ordinary then most people could actually afford healthcare
The $25 Tylenol isn't the issue, that's just the hospital apportioning costs, which is the issue. They could charge $25 more for the room rate and 10 cents for the Tylenol and it wouldn't make any difference. By the way, the one monitoring the costs should be the patient...unfortunately even the sick need to be educated consumers. The issue is cost. a close friend of mine is trying to get into a clinical trial for a drug that could provide some relief to a lifelong and expensive-to-treat condition they have. The drug company wants very badly to get the drug approved, the hospital wants very badly to administer the trial, and the friend wants very badly to get into the clinical trial which would both improve their health and lower their health care costs. The problem is the ENDLESS stream of EXPENSIVE red tape and bureaucracy just getting them into the trial. The amount of money being spent just to break down obstacles in the way of connecting a willing sick patient with a promising new drug...THAT is criminal.
Agreed. The private market knows that people will pay a *lot* for healthcare, and life saving treatments/drugs/surgery, and so the free market is doing what the free market does best, maximizing profits. Why sell the EPI Pen for $50, when you can sell it for $500, maybe more?
