The Oppression Continues

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by grainofsand, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

    593
    May 19, 2006
    I was reading back and forgot that I wanted to respond to this gem of flawed logic.

    I think you are confusing income increasing for the SAME POSITION due to inflation and income increasing because people better themselves and assume DIFFERENT POSITIONS (no, not doggie style, reverse cowboy, etc).

    If my income ONLY increased by 55% over the last 25 years, I'd be living in my car.
     
  2. World B Free

    World B Free Well-Known Member

    614
    Feb 7, 2013
    O Seldom...

    #Phallus
     
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  3. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    You beat me to this dude. Yeah, IG for sure. And Facebook too. The weird thing is, a lot of guys/shops that have dot com websites are letting them die because they're probably getting their business through IG and FB these days.

    One thing that will never die is local word of mouth, which has been around since the days of The Duke. Local shaper makes great local boards. Locals ride boards. Out-of-towners see locals rip on local shape, and wants one too. If the shaper is talented, word grows exponentially. Local shaper shapes beaucoup boards and quits laying sod.

    Which is the biggest reason why shapers give free shapes to hot surfers. But that's another story.
     
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  4. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/...-starting-salaries-for-new-college-graduates/
    dang internet, college grads; look at the cummulative column on the right-hand side of the chart. Most jobs "try" to keep up with market demands, but in some cases businesses will freeze merit, raises, and increases based on what's good for the share holders. If what you said were true, there would be no $15 min wage push.
     
  5. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

    593
    May 19, 2006
    Thanks, you just proved my point.
     
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  6. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    I feel like I'm being oppressed by reading this
     
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  7. nalu222

    nalu222 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 11, 2010
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  8. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    No way I would spend that kind of money for that board. If you buy it you had better treat it like a piece of jewelry. By that I mean it only sees the light of day when you are riding it. It never gets left in the car or laying in the sun on the beach. You're either riding it or its in a board bag. If its ever dinged the session is over immediately and its fixed before being used again.
     
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  9. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Take yourself out of the board market and build your own. If you can't/won't do that, you pay what you can afford. It's that simple.
     
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  10. CJsurf

    CJsurf Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Yep. See picture below. Cost me about $200 to shape and glass the board I'm riding. Airplane ticket to this tropical location with waves and warm clear water was $170. Boardbag fee $60 round trip for this board and a backup. Rental car was about $200 per person for 8 days. Very very nice lodging for 8 days split between two people worked out to $450 per person. Basically for not much more than the cost of that Lost you could have a board and a tropical surf trip if you play your cards right.

    Granted someone who has never built a board before isn't going to be able to make a board for $200 but you get the idea.

    Also, imagine if the baggage throwers had damaged your $900 board. That would hurt a lot more than a $200 board.

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  11. headhigh

    headhigh Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2009
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  12. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

    742
    Oct 30, 2008
    Those are crack prices. I cannot believe a shortboard would cost a grand.

    If you really like the shape you could pirate the dims and order a "custom" from someone. Or, I have had several real winners that resulted from conversations with custom shapers. You tell them how you surf (be honest), describe what you want the board to do, then give height/weight, relay preferences, talk about the conditions you plan to use the board under (becachbreak, reef etc) then let the shaper do the magic.
     
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  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I've charged a cool grand for a custom longboard with custom butterfly stringer, resin tint, resin pinlines, gloss and polish, etc. And without hesitation.
     
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  14. grainofsand

    grainofsand Well-Known Member

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    Jun 26, 2014
    ^you're on a gravy train with biscuit wheels LB, keep the tap flowing; some say it's greed, others say you do you, in any case, surfing has a revolving door client, literally, everyday there is literally a different human buying their first board, so... Laissez les bons temps rouler
     
  15. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    What's a "butterfly stringer"?
     
  16. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I feel like Real Water Sports enjoys huge markup for the convenience of offering a bunch of big name brands to shoppers who just can't be bothered to talk to a shaper, look at a used board, or check the racks. There are literally dozens of equivalent boards to the Rad Ripper (basically an '80s style grovel squash tail) on the racks in Delaware and Ocean City for around $550 - $650 from well known shapers...i.e. Ashton, AJW, Super, Solid, Timmy Patterson...the list goes on.
     
  17. Carson

    Carson Well-Known Member

    593
    May 19, 2006
    They are really cool! My wife has one and i can control it from my phone. Makes for some interesting Sunday brunches!
     
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  18. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    ???
     
  19. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

    742
    Oct 30, 2008
    Many of the "winners" mentioned above were from Ashton. Jon is the man!
     
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  20. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

    742
    Oct 30, 2008
    Thats why I said a grand is crazy for shortboards. I am the proud owner of two longboards that hover in the "grand" range.
     
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