That's probably why your stance was so narrow on a shortboard. The person I was referring to still wins ESA contests on shortboards in his age division (fossil), so a narrow stance is not a bad thing in most peoples opinion. A wide stance, however, is just ugly. Especially when the knees point away from each other.
Anybody have any experience with asymmetrical shapes? At first it seems like a gimmick that won't stand the test of time but the idea kind of makes sense when you think about it
Yeah it makes complete sense for someone surfing a predictable point or reef where you know there breaking left or right. With the unpredictability of most east coast spots owning an Asymmetrical shape would be impractical! Just my 0.02....
You'll never understand the concept until you've tried it. Speaking form an informed perspective, I can say it definitely has merit, and the potential is... in the commercial market... completely untapped.
I'm not so sure. I think the idea is you surf differently front side than back side so no matter which way the wave is moving you have an ideal setup. The concept should work in any type of break. I'd like to try one but I'm a goofy foot and all the ones I've seen are for regular foot.
Asymmetrical boards are not only unique in the tail from side to side but also rail and bottom? That's pretty sophisticated and intriguing...
Yes sir. You can start to get a feel for what asyms are about just by putting your rail fins in different locations, or even using different fins in the same location. That's the simplest form of asymmetry. Then comes outlines, then bottom contours, and even rocker. In fact, different bottom contours on either side of the stringer can necessarily create different rail rockers in the tail. It's a whole other world, and super fun to experiment with.
They have been making Asym snowboards for sometime now, with asym progressive sidecuts. Snowboarding, for me, is the easiest way to understand stance symmetry. Take a look at your bindings, locked in, in most cases with toe(s) out at a couple degrees, when going to a heel side edge you center of balance is knocked into the backseat, which is why toeside turns are easier to get into. (ie skateboarding, surfing, etc). Asym just allows the rider to utilize center of balance for better control.
&, as the video shows, it could open up a whole new realm of surfing fun. if people would just step off their clear, sanded thrusters for a session or 2.
http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2272816&gonew=1#UNREAD the above is a link to a guy on the surfermagBB who recently built his own burch-insprired assym, complete w/ ride report. info for us mortals.
I know a guy who ONLY rides assyms, and had been doing it for years. I've ridden a few of his boards... different lengths, from that shortboard I'm holding in the pic on the previous page from last March, on up to longboards... and it is a COMPLETELY different feeling. Really refreshing. Brings the stoke back 1,000 percent.
if it ever gets tapped - i bet; at the end of the day - simons' design works better. why? cause if a-syms were better they would have already been used to beat ks in a heat.
that's such a specious argument that really doesn't hold up to proper scrutiny. for one, "success" on the pro circuit is not necessarily an indicator of how well a design will work for average folks. ie: cheyne horan & the lazor zap design. arguably one of the most successful pro surfers, he was constantly in the hunt, but never won a title. why aren't we all riding lazor zaps? & we all learned the hard way in the 90s just how well highly refined hpsbs (kelly's "elf shoe" boards) don't work for us mortals. in the red bull decades series, even guys like julian wilson had trouble making that board work well. judging a design based on whether not pros use it in contests is just ridiculously narrow-minded. hope you don't have anything w/ a round nose on it, pros don't use them!
well, somebody likes his a-syms. if you're climbing surfings' evolutionary tree be careful not to grasp A DEAD BRANCH.
not at all, i've never ridden one. i just think that judging a design based on what works for a narrow subset of exceptionally talented surfers is absurd. any design, not just assyms.