the rush of continuous rhythm

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by njsurfer42, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    That's probably why your stance was so narrow on a shortboard. The person I was referring to still wins ESA contests on shortboards in his age division (fossil), so a narrow stance is not a bad thing in most peoples opinion. A wide stance, however, is just ugly. Especially when the knees point away from each other.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Saw this video the other day, I really dig his style and approach to waves, fun to watch
     

  3. BassMon

    BassMon Well-Known Member

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    May 8, 2013
    Anybody have any experience with asymmetrical shapes? At first it seems like a gimmick that won't stand the test of time but the idea kind of makes sense when you think about it
     
  4. JawnDoeski

    JawnDoeski Well-Known Member

    Aug 11, 2014
    Yeah it makes complete sense for someone surfing a predictable point or reef where you know there breaking left or right. With the unpredictability of most east coast spots owning an Asymmetrical shape would be impractical! Just my 0.02....
     
  5. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    this video tells me one thing.... surfboard design is not important. lol.
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    My thoughts exactly
     
  7. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
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    You'll never understand the concept until you've tried it. Speaking form an informed perspective, I can say it definitely has merit, and the potential is... in the commercial market... completely untapped.
     
  8. Peajay4060

    Peajay4060 Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2011
    I'm not so sure. I think the idea is you surf differently front side than back side so no matter which way the wave is moving you have an ideal setup. The concept should work in any type of break. I'd like to try one but I'm a goofy foot and all the ones I've seen are for regular foot.
     
  9. FUN

    FUN Well-Known Member

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    Aug 28, 2014
    soOoOoOo fast
     
  10. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Asymmetrical boards are not only unique in the tail from side to side but also rail and bottom? That's pretty sophisticated and intriguing...
     
  11. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Yes sir. You can start to get a feel for what asyms are about just by putting your rail fins in different locations, or even using different fins in the same location. That's the simplest form of asymmetry. Then comes outlines, then bottom contours, and even rocker. In fact, different bottom contours on either side of the stringer can necessarily create different rail rockers in the tail.

    It's a whole other world, and super fun to experiment with.
     
  12. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2014
    They have been making Asym snowboards for sometime now, with asym progressive sidecuts. Snowboarding, for me, is the easiest way to understand stance symmetry. Take a look at your bindings, locked in, in most cases with toe(s) out at a couple degrees, when going to a heel side edge you center of balance is knocked into the backseat, which is why toeside turns are easier to get into. (ie skateboarding, surfing, etc). Asym just allows the rider to utilize center of balance for better control.
     
  13. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    &, as the video shows, it could open up a whole new realm of surfing fun. if people would just step off their clear, sanded thrusters for a session or 2.
     
  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    So how many of you guys own one of these asyms and surf it regularly? Be honest...
     
  15. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
  16. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    I know a guy who ONLY rides assyms, and had been doing it for years. I've ridden a few of his boards... different lengths, from that shortboard I'm holding in the pic on the previous page from last March, on up to longboards... and it is a COMPLETELY different feeling. Really refreshing. Brings the stoke back 1,000 percent.
     
  17. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    if it ever gets tapped - i bet; at the end of the day - simons' design works better.
    why? cause if a-syms were better they would have already been used to beat ks in a heat.
     
  18. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    that's such a specious argument that really doesn't hold up to proper scrutiny. for one, "success" on the pro circuit is not necessarily an indicator of how well a design will work for average folks. ie: cheyne horan & the lazor zap design. arguably one of the most successful pro surfers, he was constantly in the hunt, but never won a title. why aren't we all riding lazor zaps? & we all learned the hard way in the 90s just how well highly refined hpsbs (kelly's "elf shoe" boards) don't work for us mortals. in the red bull decades series, even guys like julian wilson had trouble making that board work well.

    judging a design based on whether not pros use it in contests is just ridiculously narrow-minded. hope you don't have anything w/ a round nose on it, pros don't use them!
     
  19. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    well, somebody likes his a-syms.
    if you're climbing surfings' evolutionary tree be careful not to grasp
    A DEAD BRANCH.
     
  20. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    not at all, i've never ridden one. i just think that judging a design based on what works for a narrow subset of exceptionally talented surfers is absurd. any design, not just assyms.