I'm coming late to this party but I have a channel bottom double wing swallow tail 6'2" HP thruster. Most bad ass surfboard I' ve ever had. Its was shaped by ray Finley out of new Zealand. He is a master of the channel bottom.
i agree w/ this 100%, though i'd say it's a concept more than "mildly flawed". it's far worse than that, when a well-known pro can't ride what he wants in a contest for fear of being marked down by the judges.
Sounds like a blast, watched it on the Cams a bunch, i'm a goofy footer so I prefer lefts but I don't shy away from rights at all, got a full dose of rights at Marias and Domes couple weeks ago so i'm feeling pretty good about em. Jobos and Wilderness are on the list for next trip for sure.
I'm thinking of getting a Carver skateboard and cutting an asymmetrical tail in it. I think this will help when going for big power slides. After reading the other thread about that Bonzer I have a question. Will an asymmetrical tail work better if I use asymmetrical wheels? I'm thinking a 70mm on my toe side and a 65mm on my heel side? Or should I just use the same size and different durometer? Anybody have any experience with this?
Ah SBX not to rain on your parade dude but that is the most illogical idea..the biggest clue that it won't work the way you desire..wheel sizes..
I'm pretty sure the smaller wheel will be looser, just like a smaller fin. If it works for surfing I don't see why it wouldn't work on a Carver.
Dude all though the concept of a carver is to mock surfing..they cannot be approached the same..just like if I was to do the same with my real skateboard it would negatively impact the riding performance..it would be the same outcome on the carver.
I think you're getting hung up on the wheel size changes, and I agree that there is no way that would work alone. I'm pretty sure you need the asymmetrical deck to tie it all together.
Nah I think you would need the trucks turning radius to be set up asym most of all to make this work..I think an asym deck wouldn't make a difference in this case..I've spent enough years behind the desk of the local shop to know the wheel configuration with those carver trucks will be a problem..
Here's a mock up of what I'm thinking for a deck shape. I've shortened and curved the heel side to add release, and I've kept a hard edge on the toe side to maintain hold. My thinking is that I have trouble powersliding backside without reaching back and planting my arms, I'm hoping this design will help with that.
SBX, smaller wheels will not help with what you're trying to do. The modified deck outline is looking pretty good though, it will help you get that heel side pressure that's so hard to come by as a result of the lack of symmetry in the human foot. I like where you're going with it, it's tough being regular in a place with mostly left banks but this will help you get the most of it! Oh yeah, so as far as the wheels go, smaller won't help you power slide at all, differential is just bad for that. What you need is a wheel with a different surface, something softer will probably do it. I'm thinking 99 duros on the right and 60 on the left, then you should start to see a difference (if not just throw some wax on there). You will still have the urge to plant your hands for a backside powerslide, but you must resist! Instead, grab your frontside rail. If that doesn't do it then just grab both rails. You'll be skating without gloves before you know it
Solid advice Slash..a little hand drag through a power slide looks stylin' A hand plant to force the slide..nah that don't even count..
Thanks for the advice Slash, it's good to hear from someone familiar with the conditions we Carve here in New York. I see what you're saying about wheel size, and I'm for sure going with a hardness differential, but what about asymmetrical trucks? Longer on the toe and shorter on the heel? I'll need to cut the trucks and tap new threads, but I used to work in a hardware store and I'm pretty sure one of the guys there can help me out. That will definitely increase the benefits I get from the deck shape, right?
Asym boards totally bug me out but the guy is killing it. I bet he would surf just as well on a normal board thou. That wave is sick!!
SBX be cautious when trimming the axles if you go that route..and I'd imagine they have an axle threader at your local skate shop