Trump / FBI / Russians

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by backside hack, May 12, 2017.

  1. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    right now we have a piece of paper authored by the two biggest liars on the planet. meanwhile, kim gets the recognition on the world stage he desires. he has been legitimized and trump is heaping praise on him. trump love has turned your mind into mush.
     
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  2. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    So negative.
     
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  3. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Sure as hell beats handing over $150b...just saying. Yourrr right its a piece of paper. No sanctions lifted. Nothing has changed.

    I will concede that little rocket man can't be trusted and this may end up being a shit show.
     
  4. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    Why because CNN and the compromised folks in the CIA say so? How is he a monster compared to the communist China?
     
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  5. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Naw....Iran was DIRECTLY involved in killing many US troops. Obama befriended them--traitor.
     
  6. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    To answer your question. Im not completely sure how much of a monster he is, I have trouble believing sources involving Russia. I have never been to Russia, have you?
     
  7. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    The situation with NK is, in it's essence, no different than what Nixon did with China back in '72: open up dialogue and commence formal relations.

    The nuke stuff is secondary and peripheral.

    How do you feel about our current relationship with China?

    Or would you prefer we still treat them like NK?
     
  8. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    So was North Korean....pretty sure that war never officially ended Barry. Since when do I have to give you a history lesson?
     
  9. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    i'll take that to mean that you've got nothing. just like this north korea "deal".
     
  10. shredman

    shredman Well-Known Member

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    Dec 14, 2016
    you do know that that money was their money that was frozen by sanctions. it was a less than perfect deal but it was keeping iran from further developing nukes. trump came in and tore up the deal. iran keeps the money and once again we get (wait for it) nothing. the art of the deal.

    i agree on your second paragraph. kim can't be trusted but he got the recognition he wants and trump got his photo op. trump was also talking about the idea of building some oceanfront condos or something in noko. we the people of the usa get nothing. the art of the deal.
     
  11. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    I haven't, never went to Nazi Germany or hung out in Syria either but have a pretty good idea about their leadership. No worries bally, you just answered all my questions about your stance.
     
  12. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    point being that Trump is NOT lifting sanctions, Iran deal was cart before the horse.
     
  13. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    wait, I meant to say cart before the donkey
     
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  14. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    Ive got nothing but love brother, keep living with all that hate until it consumes you. I will be here with open arms when you have had enough.
     
  15. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Hey Kidde, did not mean to call you Kiddie up there...fat finger phone issues!!!
     
  16. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    Oh wait, I thought "what about these guys" was taboo? Haha, gotcha.
     
  17. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
    Wow I must be playing chess and you're playing checkers. My response completely invalidated your point. Just because I haven't been to Russia doesn't mean I can't point out a tyrannical leader. You have never been to Russia, so how can you say it is great? Totally useless point.

    Your point about China is just a deflection. You're basically saying "well he isn't the only bad guy." Which might be true, but doesn't make Russia any less guilty.

    We do need to argue anymore about this because we can't agree on basic facts. If you don't agree that Putin is a monster, then we really can't argue about Russia because that, to me, is the core of the argument. You're pro Putin/Russia, got it.

    Gotcha? Typical Trump supporter, always looking for the low hanging fruit and gotcha moments.
     
  18. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Hey, I will listen to those young whipper-snappers such as yourself.
    You are correct--officially we are still at war with the NOKOs. So, I stand corrected by "youz"....
     
  19. Kyle

    Kyle Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2011
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  20. Sir_Ballyhoo

    Sir_Ballyhoo Well-Known Member

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    Mar 8, 2018
    I never said Russia was great, your chess play sucks. You keep saying Putin is a monster and a Tyrant. OK. Explain to me with your own experience and knowledge how this is so. Im being serious, show me something I dont know.
     
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