Trump / FBI / Russians

Your bias is showing.

You take the word of a staffer and nothing else and draw a conclusion, calling it good instinct. I take the indictments of people with direct ties to Trump and draw a conclusion, calling it good instinct.

Yet, I am the brainwashed one....

 

A staffer under the Obama admin. Nobody has refuted the claims that I'm aware of.

 

and that is more credible than federal indictments? Just sayin, there are dots for me to connect.

 

You and a bunch of other folks need to learn the difference between "meddling" and "collusion". Just because there was meddling doesn't mean there was collusion. They are separate things.

"There is no allegation in this indictment that ANY American had any knowledge"

 

They give out indictments for meddling?

 

Is this a rhetorical question?

 

They give them out for laws broken. Laws broken by people that can be directly tied to the Trump administration. I call those dots to connect.

 

Come on Kyle

 

Of the 12 defendants, 11 are charged with conspiracy to commit computer crimes, eight counts of aggravated identity theft and conspiracy to launder money. Another is charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes.

Name 1 person that is being charged that is directly tied to Trump, I'll wait.

 

Have you ever taken part in a Grand Jury as either a witness, juror or prosecutor?

I have. Many times.

Indictments aren't convictions, not even close.

And while I'm sure there will be some convictions, we need to pump the brakes a bit and remember that few if any of the current indictments have anything to do with the actual scope of Mueller's investigation. Mostly players who didn't register as foreign agents or pulled some tax shenanigans 10 years ago are getting pulled into the dragnet of an extremely broad scope of investigative powers.

The Special Counsel obviously hopes to get one of the indicted stooges to roll over on Trump in hopes of avoiding jail time.

History has shown that political underlings will never rat out the Head Motherfucker In Charge. They will go to prison for awhile in a nice white collar institution, where they will serve a year or 2 until the public forgets about it. Or he will be pardoned lol.

Not defending Trump, just presenting a real-world scenario.

 

If you think every FBI agent is completely objective, you are beyond naive. I haven't seen any charges brought up on him, so for now he is just a guy that doesn't like Trump. Nothing else.

 

Seriously? Popadopulous, Flynn, Manafort, Gates....

Indicted individuals directly tied to Trump, all lying to the FBI. Why are they lying to the FBI?....where there is smoke there is fire....

 

Let me help you out Kyle, these are the RUSSIANS that were indicted (see below). Try and keep up sweetheart. The guys you named are "in trouble" for unrelated things like lying and money laundering that happened over a decade ago and had nothing to do with the campaign. This is their way of trying to confuse you so that you'll conflate the two and tied them together. They have nothing to do with one another

According to the allegations in the indictment, Viktor Borisovich Netyksho, Boris Alekseyevich Antonov, Dmitriy Sergeyevich Badin, Ivan Sergeyevich Yermakov, Aleksey Viktorovich Lukashev, Sergey Aleksandrovich Morgachev, Nikolay Yuryevich Kozachek, Pavel Vyacheslavovich Yershov, Artem Andreyevich Malyshev, Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk, Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin, and Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev were officials in Unit 26165 and Unit 74455 of the Russian government’s Main Intelligence Directorate.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/gran...ficers-hacking-offenses-related-2016-election

 

I feel like I'm reading Scarborough and Hannity have a conversation

 

"In Trouble?" They pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI??? If you were under investigation for lying to the FBI would say you're just in "some trouble". Give me a break, if former Obama aides and his National Security Adviser were pleading guilty for lying to the FBI you would be going crazy on Barry.

 

Good work DP.

 

Would you like me if I said they colluded?